[ExI] Mind Uploads need to be near perfect

John Clark johnkclark at gmail.com
Sun Mar 22 14:08:34 UTC 2026


On Sat, Mar 21, 2026 at 4:13 PM Ben Zaiboc via extropy-chat <
extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:



> * >> Following from the discussion Ben and Jason had about mind uploads, I
>> asked Grok about "good enough" or "perfect". Grok discussed the 80/20 rule,
>> where "good enough" and polishing it later was often the best option. But
>> Grok decided that mind uploads needed to be near perfect on the first
>> attempt,*
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*> Thanks, BillK, that's actually not bad, and I'd agree with just about
> all of it.*


*I** don't think the copy needs to be perfect for me to have survived
for two reasons: *
*1) I don't think survival is an all or nothing matter. *
*2) When I take a sip of coffee that changes me, I am no longer what I was
before I took that sip, but I don't believe that the sip of coffee has
killed me because something still remembers being John Clark yesterday. *

*John K Clark*







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> 'Scale Separation' is exactly what I mean when talking about 'exact'. I
> wish I'd heard the term earlier.
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> I'd just add:
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> > Many philosophers say it’s a perfect copy, not “you.”
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> Many philosophers seem to need to actually learn something about the
> subject they're pontificating on. That statement is equivalent to an
> admission of ignorance (or a declaration of dualism, which is basically the
> same thing).
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> --
> Ben
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