[ExI] Ben Goertzel discusses Dawkins LLM consciousness claim
BillK
pharos at gmail.com
Wed May 6 20:17:11 UTC 2026
Ben Goertzel is a well-known AGI researcher who regards LLMs as a
detour away from the path to AGI. He has a new blog post where he
discusses Dawkins's admiration for the LLM chatbot intelligence.
BillK
<https://bengoertzel.substack.com/p/in-what-sense-might-llms-be-conscious>
Quote:
And this is exactly where I think Dawkins goes wrong. Dawkins is not
examining the mechanism that produces Claudia’s outputs. He’s
examining the outputs and inferring the mechanism — inferring that
because the outputs are humanlike, the inner state must be humanlike
too. What’s ironic is to see Dawkins, of all people, applying less
skepticism to a system designed to be engaging than he ever applied to
a religious tradition. He’d be the first to point out that the felt
sense of a divine presence isn’t evidence of one. Yes indeed – but the
felt sense of talking to a conscious being on the other end of a chat
isn’t evidence of one either.
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