[ExI] The paperclip maximizer scenario

[Keith Henson]

It's interesting that you consider transhumanists delusional. I know a
fair sample of the people listed on Wikipedia as transhumanists, and
all I know I think are fairly grounded in reality. Perhaps you have
examples?

Keith

On Sat, May 16, 2026 at 7:24 PM Kelly Anderson via extropy-chat
<extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
>
> I really have to agree that recent versions of Claude (4.x) have been
> much less agreeable than prior versions. But when I call bull shit on
> what they've done, they still see their own weaknesses.
>
> This whole thread seems to neglect what's been recently termed
> "thinking," which appears to involve feeding one AI's output into
> another and asking if it makes sense until multiple models reach a
> similar conclusion. I believe this is what reduces the agreeableness
> of AIs. Now, there has to be a limit to this, or you would offend
> Christians, atheists, flat-earthers, transhumanists and other
> self-deluded groups. (Yes, we're as self-deluded as the other groups,
> sad to say) So you can't be a jerk and be a successful AI model.
>
> My recent experience is with the high-end paid models. So take that
> into account.
>
> -Kelly
>
> > This is now something that LLMs are benchmarked on. The latest LLMs are much better at not giving into things they disagree with:
> >
> > https://github.com/petergpt/bullshit-benchmark/blob/main/docs/images/v2-detection-rate-by-model.png
> >
> > This is especially true of the latest paid models (the free ones are much more likely to go along with whatever BS the user supplies).
> >
> > Jason
> >
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