[ExI] They're Made out of Meat

[Gregory Jones]

Keith if that is what is causing Tabby's star to dim, that would be wicked
cool.  Certainly it would serve as evidence our murderous species can
survive multiple existential threats.  spike

On Sun, May 24, 2026, 11:42 AM Keith Henson via extropy-chat <
extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:

> Thinking about uploads, the light dip we see from Tabby's star could
> be a data center supporting trillions of uploaded aliens. It is, if I
> remember right, over a light second wide. (I posted the math here
> years ago.)
>
> Keith
>
> On Sun, May 24, 2026 at 10:31 AM Ben Zaiboc via extropy-chat
> <extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
> >
> > On 24/05/2026 16:04, Jason Resch wrote:
> > > I agree that ither life forms can be made that need not be biological
> (once bootstrapped by biological intelligence). But can you envision any
> self-emerging intelligence that doesn't go through a biochemical stage in
> this universe?
> >
> >
> > The 'They're Made out of Meat' story doesn't say anything about the
> machine* life having emerged without a biological precursor.
> >
> > I would imagine that naturally evolved biological life is relatively
> easy in this universe, intelligent life much less so, but pretty much
> necessarily based on biology at first, then non-biological (or rather
> 'post-biological') intelligent, deliberately designed life arising from
> that, and who knows what beyond that.
> >
> > *Yet again, the language we use is probably doing us a disservice,
> 'machine' having the connotation that it's completely distinct from
> biological, when this is not very useful, or true. We are all machines
> already. One day, if we don't destroy ourselves, we could be
> superbiological, or postbiological, machines, instead of biological ones.
> Even if everybody eventually uploads into some kind of computronium
> computing substrate, we'll still need a physical presence in the physical
> world, and I doubt that it will be like our current clunky robots.
> >
> > --
> > Ben
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