[ExI] ai is the easy road

[Keith Henson]

On Sat, Oct 17, 2026 at 3:07 AM John Clark <johnkclark at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Thu, Oct 15, 2026 at 8:09 PM Keith Henson <hkeithhenson at gmail.com>
> wrote:
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> *> If you want to argue I am wrong in this analysis, please do. I can make
>> logic or math errors like anyone else.*
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>
> *I don't think your idea is wrong, I just don't think it's of much use in
> explaining or predicting current events. *
>

If you have a better way to understand or predict human behavior than our
evolved selection for psychological traits please state your thoughts. My
thoughts on this are subject to being replaced by a better model.

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>> *>> Cooperation is just as an important a strategy as aggression,*
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>> *> In normal times, yes. But it depends on the conditions. *
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> *I agree.  *
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> *>> and humans are FAR more peaceful than our nearest genetic cousins,
>>> chimpanzees;*
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>> *> Don't forget we are equally close to Bonobos.*
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>
> *Good point. We are equally close to Bonobos and they are much more
> peaceful than chimpanzees, *
>

The question that bothered me for 20 years is why the difference? I finally
ran into a paper that accounted for the difference. The environment where
bonobos live does not genetically reward territorial defense where it does
for chimps. Read the paper Arel and I wrote for details.

*and yet the genes for both never left the tropics and today they are
> nearly extinct in the wild, *
>

I don't think that is the case for either of them.

*but human genes are now in the Arctic and Antarctic and everywhere in
> between; we must have something that they lack. Perhaps Chimpanzees and
> Bonobos found a ratio between aggression and cooperation *
>

I don't think either one of them cooperates to a serious extent.

*that produced a local maximum, but humans found a global maximum that
> worked well under a large number of very different environmental
> conditions.*
>
> *It's also interesting that genetic evidence proves that Chimpanzees and
> Bonobos are both more closely related to humans than they are to Gorillas.
> So a small change to the genome can make a big change to the phenotype, and
> to behavior. *
>
> *John K Clark*
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>>> * John K Clark *
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