[ExI] Inflation and the 2024 election

[Keith Henson]

 Me. How deep is a missile sub when it launches?

GTP A ballistic-missile submarine typically launches its missiles from about
20–50 meters (65–165 feet) below the surface, though the exact depth
depends on the submarine and missile system.

Keith


On Sat, Oct 17, 2026 at 11:53 AM John Clark <johnkclark at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Sat, Oct 17, 2026 at 2:41 PM Keith Henson <hkeithhenson at gmail.com>
> wrote:
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> *> >>  nobody ever gave Rajneesh the keys to a missile carrying nuclear
>>>>> submarine like they did for the MAGA leader.*
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>>>> *> I am fairly sure that orders to launch would not be obeyed unless
>>>> the US was under attack*
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>>> *> A modern nuclear missile submarine stays 1000 feet underwater for
>>> months at a time, so the captain of the submarine is completely cut off
>>> from what's going on in the outside world except for a ultra low frequency
>>> ultra low bandwidth military radio receiver that can only receive about 2
>>> words a minute, so the only way he would know that the US was under attack
>>> was if his Commander and Chief told him it was under attack. And then his
>>> orders would be clear, launch all missiles.   *
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>> *> I don't think that is the way it works. For one thing, a sub can't
>> launch from 1000 feet down, so they have to come up to the surface anyway.
>> At that point, the sub sticks up an antenna and gets messages from
>> satellites with target details. I may be wrong on this, so if you have
>> details, please post them.*
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> *ME**:** Can a modern nuclear missile submarine launch its missiles while
> still staying submerged?*
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> *GPT: "Yes**. Modern nuclear-powered ballistic-missile submarines can
> launch their nuclear missiles while remaining submerged. In fact, this is
> one of the most important features of these submarines: they can remain
> hidden underwater while carrying out a strategic nuclear strike. The
> missiles generally do not ignite their main rocket engines inside the
> submarine. Instead, they are ejected from their launch tubes and travel
> upward through the water before their rocket motors ignite.*
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> *The U.S. Navy's Ohio-class ballistic-missile submarines carry Trident II
> D5 missiles and are designed for extended patrols while concealed
> underwater. Their ability to launch without surfacing makes them a
> particularly survivable part of the United States' nuclear deterrent. So,
> yes: the submarine can remain submerged throughout the launch. The missile,
> of course, must leave the water before its main rocket motor propels it
> toward space." *
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> *John K Clark*
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>>>>>>> *Why do cult preachers who predict an exact date for the end of the
>>>>>>> world fail to lose any popularity with their slavish acolytes even after
>>>>>>> that date recedes into the past  and their prediction clearly failed
>>>>>>> because the world still continues? Nobody knows.  I do have strong evidence
>>>>>>> that millions of people continue to find Donald J Trump to be charming and
>>>>>>> charismatic even after he has told literally TENS OF THOUSANDS of lies. For
>>>>>>> some reason his apparent charm and charisma never worked a damn with me, I
>>>>>>> find him to be** so stupid and pompous he would be comical if he
>>>>>>> hadn't introduced so much new misery to the world which already had quite
>>>>>>> enough. I freely admit I can't explain how doomsday cult leaders or the
>>>>>>> current leader of the Republican Party could possibly exist, but somehow
>>>>>>> both can. *
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>>>>>>> *I also know that during the height of the Covid pandemic the
>>>>>>> difference between a doomsday cult and the modern Republican Party started
>>>>>>> to get very blurry.  *
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>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *John K Clark*
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