[ExI] Socialism

[spike at rainier66.com]

...> On Behalf Of Ben Zaiboc via extropy-chat


On 17/10/2026 17:50, spike wrote:
> Piker is openly promoting European-style socialism.

>...I have been learning a bit about the different types of socialism, and it's not surprising that the word generates a lot of heat. The word on its own is almost meaningless, and I think it always needs qualifying. Spike's use of the term 'European-style socialism' is puzzling, because his comment implies that he regards it as a bad thing...

It isn't just me Ben.  The republic party and half of the democrat party regard it as a bad thing.  The other half of the democrat party call themselves the Democrat Socialists of America.  They are forming their own party, as the democrats don't want them.

France is the poster child.  America has huge debt problems, France has that too, just not as bad yet.  But... their problems are boiling to the surface in the form of riots.

>...In keeping with spike's idea of numerically quantifying complex things, it might be useful to create a system for representing exactly what someone means, instead of using a word that's certain to be misunderstood by at least some people...

With my notion of a taxonomy of AI, what I am learning is the science of taxonomy itself.  It is waaaaay more complicated than I imagined, but a taxonomy of politics makes a lot of sense.

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>...I noticed that the Social Democrats of America website uses 'Social Democrat' and 'Democratic Socialism' interchangeably, which adds to the confusion, but I /think/ they are actually social democrat, and not advocating for a transition to communism... Ben

They haven't convinced the other half of the democrat party that communism is not their ultimate goal.  The current mayor of New York stoked fears on that.

spike
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