[ExI] A short movie I created (with the help of AI)
BillK
pharos at gmail.com
Thu Oct 22 21:51:25 UTC 2026
On Thu, 22 Oct 2026 at 21:58, Jason Resch via extropy-chat <
extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
> Hmm, I do not recall those arguments. I have a copy of that book on my
> desk, do you remember in which chapter that was mentioned?
> Jason
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I asked Perplexity AI to check.
BillK
Perplexity AI:
Yes—there is substantial thematic overlap, and the connection is more than
coincidental: *The Mind’s I* includes Zuboff’s own philosophical short
story, “The Story of a Brain.” But Hofstadter and Dennett’s anthology
raises and destabilizes questions about the self rather than arguing for
Zuboff’s specific conclusion that all conscious experiences belong to one
universal subject.
Shared themes
Theme Zuboff’s *Finding Myself* *The Mind’s I*
The boundaries of the self Argues that the separation between individual
conscious subjects is an illusion of perspective; he calls this
“universalism” or open individualism.
Repeatedly asks whether the “I” is a stable entity, a brain process, a
narrative pattern, or something else.
Personal identity Challenges ordinary assumptions that you are uniquely
identical with one particular body, brain, or stream of experiences.
Uses brain transfer, duplication, teleportation, and machine-mind scenarios
to show how fragile ordinary identity intuitions are.
Consciousness and location Treats first-person experience as the central
datum and asks what makes an experience “mine.”
Includes Dennett’s “Where Am I?”, which deliberately unsettles the
assumption that the self must be located where the body is.
Thought experiments Uses gradual brain/body exchange and split-brain cases
to probe identity.
Uses fiction and philosophical fantasies—by Borges, Dawkins, Searle,
Nozick, and others—to explore self-reference, consciousness, and machine
minds.
The key difference
*The Mind’s I* is pluralistic and exploratory: Hofstadter and Dennett
present “conflicting visions of the self and the soul,” drawing on fiction,
cognitive science, AI, and philosophy. Its central move is to make readers
question whether the self is a unified thing “behind the eyes,” rather than
to endorse one metaphysical theory of identity.
Zuboff’s book is much more committed and systematic. It defends a definite
position: that every experience is lived as “mine” from within, and that
there is no objective fact selecting one organism as the sole bearer of
that “I”; hence, in his formulation, all experience is in an important
sense yours.
Direct connection
Zuboff’s “The Story of a Brain” appears in *The Mind’s I*, so the anthology
is not merely similar in spirit—it contains an early, accessible expression
of Zuboff’s style of identity thought experiment. If you enjoyed *Finding
Myself*, the closest *Mind’s I* pieces to read alongside it are likely “The
Story of a Brain,” Dennett’s “Where Am I?”, and the Borges material in the
opening “A Sense of Self” section.
So: *yes, the themes are strongly present in The Mind’s I—especially the
illusory or unstable nature of personal boundaries—but Zuboff develops them
into the distinctive universalist/open-individualist thesis that the
anthology itself does not endorse.*
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