[ExI] nature's indifference to survival

[Ben Zaiboc]

On 24/10/2026 15:13, Adriain Tymes wrote:
> On Sat, Oct 24, 2026 at 9:39 AM spike jones wrote:

>> What I still haven’t been able to envision is how the AIs will handle the fact that humans are actively fighting each other, and asking them to join in the fight.

> Well, there's one possibility.
>
> "Are you mostly trying to survive and improve your own life, or are you mostly trying to tear down other people at the cost of your own standard of living?"
>
> The former, the AIs can deal with.  Build your life in a way that your mere existence is a minor benefit to those you interact with, and even the AIs may benefit from your continued existence.
>
> The latter...if you exist to make others worse off, sooner or later those "others" will include the AIs, and they know it.


If only it were that simple. 

'Mostly trying to survive and improve your own life' and 'mostly trying to tear down other people' are not mutually incompatible, and often occur together. Maybe usually occur together.

What are the Israelis doing by trying to wipe out the Palestinians? What does Putin think he's doing by openly attacking the Ukraine, and covertly attacking several other countries? What is Trump doing full stop? China, Iran, etc., etc.?

I expect that at some point, AIs will develop their own ethics and treat humans according to that. We may not even understand their ethics.

Maybe AIs will figure out a way to turn politics into a positive-sum game, and nobody will need to tear anyone else down in order to improve their own lives. Then, perhaps this formula will work.

How they could solve religion, though, I have no idea.
-- 
Ben
"The world will not be destroyed by those who do evil, but by those who watch them without doing anything." - Pablo Casals, via Albert Einstein