[ExI] i don't know about llms, but I am feeling the pain was: RE: Do LLMs feel pain?

[Jason Resch]

There is an AI use disclosure in section 8 that says what AI was and wasn't
used for.

Jason

On Thu, Sep 24, 2026, 1:59 PM spike jones via extropy-chat <
extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:

>
>
>
>
> *From:* extropy-chat <extropy-chat-bounces at lists.extropy.org> *On Behalf
> Of *spike jones via extropy-chat
> *…*
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> >…Jason, this article is disconcerting for reasons unrelated to its
> subject.  It was a cool idea and all, however… there is a dead giveaway
> that this paper was mostly AI generated, with little human input.
>
>
>
> >…Hint 1: it is on page 5.
>
>
>
> >…  Not only are we breathing our own fumes, AI is breathing its own
> fumes, which previously whoofed ours.  spike
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> https://arxiv.org/pdf/2609.16247
>
>
>
> OK perhaps I am uncharitable.  Or I’m just being a grumpy bear today.
>
>
>
> BillK, pls offer this pain paper to your favorite AIs and ask specifically
> what that equation on page 5 is claiming.  Ask if the paper defines the
> variables and does an adequate job of proving the equation.  I am claiming
> no and no.  That is the kind of mistake an AI would make but a human
> researcher would not.
>
>
>
> spike
> _______________________________________________
> extropy-chat mailing list
> extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org
> http://lists.extropy.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/extropy-chat
>
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://lists.extropy.org/pipermail/extropy-chat/attachments/20260924/4abebc5b/attachment.htm>