[ExI] lithium battery fires again

[Keith Henson]

The SolarSyngas storage method seems like it would be less dangerous than
lithium batteries. True, it involves carbon monoxide, but people piped that
into their homes for 100 years. As an industrial gas, it is well
understood. Besides storing sunlight energy, you can convert the gas to
diesel or jet fuel.

Keith


On Sun, Sep 27, 2026 at 12:24 PM spike jones via extropy-chat <
extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:

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> For those who track this kinda thing, this fire was in the north Los
> Angeles basin, not the same as the Moss Landing fires:
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> Temperatures begin to stabilize in La Verne lithium battery units, but
> evacuation orders remain – San Gabriel Valley Tribune
> <https://www.sgvtribune.com/2026/09/24/authorities-await-experts-to-help-solve-la-verne-battery-fire-as-temperatures-spike/>
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> They just happened around the same time.
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> As I fully expected, the environmentalists flocked to the Moss Landing
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> https://theconversation.com/when-the-worlds-largest-battery-power-plant-caught-fire-toxic-metals-rained-down-wetlands-captured-the-fallout-268848
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> Good chance we can agree that solar and wind power become practical if we
> have a good safe clean way to store energy, and lithium battery storage
> becomes economically feasible if we rely heavily on retired car batteries.
> We get that they are at greater risk of fire, but if we isolate them well
> enough, the risk of major damage goes way down.
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> Current techniques are clearly insufficient: these plants do catch on
> fire, and when they do they are hard to put out.  But if we isolate storage
> units into about a ton of batteries in each unit that can be quickly
> isolated (detect battery failure, yeet that hot bed out the door and let it
> down the hill, burn out safely) this notion can work.
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