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<br><font class=messtitle>Re: [extropy-chat] Self replicating computer programs ?</font><br>
<table width="100%"><tr><td width="100%"><br><font class=metatype>Author: </font><a href="mailto:thespike@earthlink.net"><font class=metacontent>Damien Broderick</font></a><br><font class=metatype>Conversation: </font><a href="conv.php?new=true&convdata=id::VaYPABTp-zork-QONa-3ACN-HLXp1L939b4G">RE: [extropy-chat] Self replicating computer programs ?</a> ( <a href="XMLmessage.php?id=id::LV8Qd1gH-Y3tc-bk5G-UG5T-SzgGSGlOMmlj">prev</a> | <a href="XMLmessage.php?id=id::WRF4RlZJ-EwBZ-RSFK-N14_-V0wRNTECagV7">next</a> ) <a href="mailto:%22Damien%20Broderick%22%20%3Cthespike%40earthlink.net%3E?Subject=Re%3A%20%5Bextropy-chat%5D%20Self%20replicating%20computer%20programs%20%3F&References=%3C028f01c3aa4d%24eec1fc40%24539c4a43%40texas.net%3E&In-Reply-To=%3C028f01c3aa4d%24eec1fc40%24539c4a43%40texas.net%3E">reply!</a><br><font class=metatype>Topic:</font> extropians ( <a href="XMLmessage.php?id=id::IBozbwIP-ADw6-dVJR-E38D-VHk1D0NmTih8">prev</a> | <a href="XMLmessage.php?id=id::XylPADAY-bFN5-WyI9-QQkW-QWYYSjskQz05">next</a> )<br><font class=metatype>In-Reply-To: </font>Brett Paatsch's <a href="XMLmessage.php?id=id::LV8Qd1gH-Y3tc-bk5G-UG5T-SzgGSGlOMmlj"><font class=metacontent>post</font></a><br>
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<font class="metatype">Date: </font><font class=metacontent> Thu Nov 13, 2003 06:44 pm</font><br></td><td nowrap valign="top" align="right"><div align=left>
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----- Original Message -----<br />
From: "Brett Paatsch" <<a href="mailto:bpaatsch@bigpond.net.au">bpaatsch@bigpond.net.au</a>><br />
Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2003 7:09 PM<br /><i>
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> When I see words like self in self-replicating I know that there<br />
> are substantive discussions taking place as to what "self" maps<br />
> to cognitively even in people. The pattern-identity question is<br />
> not satisfactorily resolved yet for me.<br />
</i><br />
No need to get into all this anxious twistiness. To shift away from computer<br />
programs and get more ambitious: A self-replicating assembler just uses the<br />
design mapped decades ago by von Neumann. A little replicator factory swims<br />
in a soup of raw materials. It contains a partioned component with an exact<br />
plan for its own construction, which guides the factory to build a copy of<br />
itself (including the plan) in the workspace and then release the copy into<br />
the amnion, where the copy does the same thing, until some termination code<br />
stops all the sea from being turned into salt or madly whisking broomsticks.<br />
<br />
Damien Broderick<br />
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