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<DIV><SPAN class=476132921-21112003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>"</FONT></SPAN><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Standard chromosomal
studies fully supported Ledbetter's </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>findings that Oliver had the diploid
chromesome count expected </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>for chimpanzees (i.e. 48 or 24
pairs). They also revealed that </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>his chromosomes possessed banding
patterns typical for the </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>common chimpanzee but different from
those of humans and </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>bonobos, thereby excluding any
possibility of Oliver being a </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT size=2>hybrid.<SPAN
class=476132921-21112003>"</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><BR><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT size=2><SPAN
class=476132921-21112003>"</SPAN>Moreover, when they sequenced a specific
portion (312 bp </FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>region) of the D-loop region of
Oliver's mitochondrial DNA </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>they discovered that its sequence
corresponded very closely </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>indeed with that of the Central
African subspecies of common </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>chimpanzee; the closest
correspondence of all was with a </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>chimp specimen from Gabon in
Central-West Africa. This </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>all strongly suggests that Oliver
also originated from this </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>region and is simply a common chimp -
an identity entirely </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>consistent, therefore, with my own
little-publicised opinion </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT size=2>from 1993.<SPAN
class=476132921-21112003>"</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT size=2><SPAN
class=476132921-21112003></SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT size=2><SPAN
class=476132921-21112003>And from <A
href="http://www.primate.wisc.edu/pin/oliver.html">http://www.primate.wisc.edu/pin/oliver.html</A></SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT size=2><SPAN
class=476132921-21112003></SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT size=2><SPAN
class=476132921-21112003>"Since then, the cytogenetic analysis alluded to in
that </SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT size=2><SPAN
class=476132921-21112003>report has been completed, along with mtDNA sequencing
</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT size=2><SPAN
class=476132921-21112003>and homology comparisons to African chimpanzees of
</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT size=2><SPAN
class=476132921-21112003>known geographical origins, and just published in the
AJPA </SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT size=2><SPAN
class=476132921-21112003>(2). Our results indicate that Oliver is a member of
the Pan </SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT size=2><SPAN
class=476132921-21112003>troglodytes troglodytes subspecies from Central Africa,
</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT size=2><SPAN
class=476132921-21112003>has 48 normal chimpanzee chromosomes, and was likely
</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT size=2><SPAN
class=476132921-21112003>trapped in Gabon. Full details behind our conclusions
can </SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT size=2><SPAN
class=476132921-21112003>be found in our report
(2)."</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader lang=en-us dir=ltr align=left><FONT
face=Tahoma size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> bradbury
[mailto:bradbury@blarg.net] <BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, November 19, 2003 4:00
PM<BR><B>To:</B> ExI chat list<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [extropy-chat] Human
Evolution<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>On Wed, Nov 19, 2003 at 12:41pm The
Avantguardian <AVANTGUARDIAN2020@YAHOO.COM>wrote:<BR>I found an interesting
trail of references to an alleged manpanzee named Oliver. <BR><BR>>
http://www.science-frontiers.com/sf110/sf110p06.htm<BR><BR>Interestingly, the
reference cited -- <BR>Holden, Constance; "'Mutant' Chimp Gets a Gene Check,"
Science, 274:727, 1996.<BR>I cannot find in PubMed.<BR><BR>I cannot view the
Science web site abstract. But the<BR>topic of the article seems
reasonable -- *what* precisely<BR>is the chromosome structure for
"Oliver"? If indeed he<BR>is some form of a human-chimpanzee
combination then it<BR>would suggest that my previous comments regarding
the<BR>difficulty of producing offspring with different<BR>chromosome numbers
may be less than I would
have<BR>thought.<BR><BR>Robert</BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>