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At 12:48 AM 6/13/04 -0500, Damien wrote:<br><br>
<blockquote type=cite class=cite cite>At 06:43 PM 6/12/2004 -0700,
Natasha quoted me:<br><br>
<blockquote type=cite class=cite cite><blockquote type=cite class=cite cite>I'm
not an extropian, so I don't have a say, but as an interested observer
I'd recommend leaving this alone.</blockquote><br>
Hey, I'm not an "extropian" either :-)</blockquote><br>
Eh? It says here: "President, Extropy
Institute."</blockquote><br>
Yes I am :-) I don't use the term extropian. <br><br>
<blockquote type=cite class=cite cite>I know you don't like the clumsy
term `extropianism', because it seems to imply cultishness or
clannishness or something, but I haven't seen any suggestion that all the
people on the list who call themselves extropians (like Spike, say) are
mistaken in doing so. What gives with that?</blockquote><br>
You are right. Oh my, listen people can call themselves whatever
makes them feel good. I was a transhumanist long before I knew of
Extropy Institute, and when I found out about ExI, I thought it was the
best organization around to get transhumanism off the ground.
(Remember Extropy, the Journal of Transhumanist Thought" way back in
the early 1990s -) It caught my eye and I became a member of
ExI. My philosophical view is that of the transhumanist philosophy
of Extropy.<br><br>
<blockquote type=cite class=cite cite><blockquote type=cite class=cite cite>Listen,
you missed the point. It is the business of WTA, so let's leave it with
WTA.</blockquote><br>
But that's what I just suggested: to leave it alone.</blockquote><br>
Okay, sorry. It was the drama of your writing :-)<br><br>
<blockquote type=cite class=cite cite><blockquote type=cite class=cite cite>The
only people drawing ExI into this are those, like you, who keep pinning
one against the other.</blockquote><br>
Huh? My suggestion was that people *avoid* pitting one against the other,
even if goaded. Let the flames die down, right?</blockquote><br>
I'm sorry, let me explain. <br><br>
You wrote: 'I'm not an extropian, so I don't have a say, but as an
interested observer I'd recommend leaving this alone. Let it go out,
probably not even any need to piss on it. Do we really benefit from
having the People's Front of Judea brawling in public with the Judean
People's Front?"<br><br>
By this, the inference is that ExI is one of these parties and WTA is
another of the parties, above. ExI is NOT one of the players
in the current situation with WTA. The players/parties are
WTA's Board. I hope this explains.<br><br>
I wrote a couple of short posts this past week stating that ExI is not
involved with WTA's business (nor should it be) and I stated that it
would be in all our best interest if we did not refer to the current
problems there or on the WTA-chat list. When any of us, including me,
bring ExI into WTA's problems it goes off course. So, by this very
post, I am contributing to the perpetuation of this nonsense. Damn.
<br><br>
warmly,<br>
Natasha<x-sigsep><p></x-sigsep>
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