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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Mike Lorrey wrote:</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>> Oh, and btw, there IS a way to remove a
Security Council</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>> member. We've done it once already,
when in the early 70's</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>> Taiwan was removed and Communist
China was added. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>> Until that time, the Nationalists had
held that SC seat.<BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Not one of the 5 PERMANENT Security Council
members.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Here is a link to the copy of the
Charter. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><A
href="http://www.un.org/aboutun/charter/index.html"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=3>http://www.un.org/aboutun/charter/index.html</FONT></A><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><STRONG>Chapter V The Security
Council - Composition</STRONG></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><EM>Article 23 says:</EM></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>1. The Security Council shall consist of
fifteen Members of</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>the United Nations. The Republic of
<STRONG>China</STRONG>, <STRONG>France</STRONG>, the Union</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>of Soviet socialist Republics, the United Kingdom
of Great</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Britain and Northern Ireland, and the United States
of America</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>shall be permanent members of the Security Council.
The General</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Assembly shall elect ten other Members of the
United Nations</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>to be non-permanent members of the Security
Council, due</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>regard being specifically paid, in the first
instance to the contribution</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>of Members of the United Nations to the
<STRONG>maintenance of </STRONG></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><STRONG>international </STRONG></FONT><FONT
face=Arial size=2><STRONG>peace and security</STRONG> and to the other purposes
of </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>the Organization, </FONT><FONT face=Arial
size=2>and also to <STRONG>equitable geographical distribution</STRONG>.
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>> The spanish speaking people of the world are
unrepresented on</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>> the SC. How about Spain, or Argentina, or
Mexico? The african</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>> people of the world are similarly
unrepresented, how about South</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>> Africa. India has a billion people, why
is China on the SC and not</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>> India? The muslim people of the
world are 800 million strong. Why</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>> isn't Saudi Arabia or Turkey on the
SC?<BR></DIV></FONT><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>10 non-permanent revolving security council member
slots are available</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>and are filled by the General Assembly voting
member nations into</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>them.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>China was a victorious WWII power. India only
separated from</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Britain after WWII. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>> > Its like the no taxation without
representation thing.<BR>> <BR>> So sorry, but I don't recall ever being
permitted to vote for a single<BR>> member of the UN General Assembly or the
Security Council. Could you<BR>> please post an election
schedule?<BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>It's not a club of citizens - its a club of
nations. Your's has a particularly</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>priviledged seat on it. Your personal capacity to
influence it is not great</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>but its a lot better than most one persons
living in the world. You have</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>free speech rights in the US and you have
a Bill of Rights.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2> </FONT><FONT face=Arial size=2> Mike,
you </FONT><FONT face=Arial size=2>were born lucky. </FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2><FONT face=Arial>The power of US citizens, should they choose
to accept it, lies not </FONT><FONT face=Arial>in their</FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>single individual votes but in their power to speak
out for things that are</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial><FONT size=2>in their interest</FONT>.
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><BR>> The UN does not represent mankind. It
represents a club of legal<BR>> fictions intent on perpetuating their power
over mankind. It is therefore</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>> an anti-human institution and therefore
an anti-transhuman institution.<BR></FONT><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Fiction? But its as legal real as the good
will of people can make it.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Including yours. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Anti-human? Anti-transhuman? Which bits
? </FONT><FONT face=Arial size=2>Look at the preamble </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>---</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>"<STRONG>We the peoples of the United
Nations</STRONG></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>determined </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>to save succeeding generations from the scourge of
war, which twice</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>in our lifetime has brought untold sorrow to
mankind,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>and</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>to reaffirm faith in fundamental human rights, in
the dignity and worth</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>of the human person, in the equal rights of mean
and women and of</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>nations large and small, and</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>to establish conditions under which justice and
respect for the </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>obligations arising from treaties and other sources
of international</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>law can be maintaine, and</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>to promote social progress and better standards of
life in larger</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>freedom, </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>and for these ends</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>to practice tolerance and live together in peace
with one another</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>as good neighbours, and</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>to unite our strength to maintain international
peace and security,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>and</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>to ensure, by the acceptance of principles and the
institution of</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>methods, that armed force shall not be used, save
in the common</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>interest, and </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>to employ international machinery for the promotion
of the economic</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>and social advancement of all people,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2> have resolved to combine our
efforts to accomplish these aims</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>According, our respective Governments,
through representatives </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>assembled in the city of San Francisco, who
have exhibited their</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>full powers found to be in good and due form, have
agreed to the</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>present Charter of the United Nations and do hereby
establish an </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>international organization to be known as the
United Nations.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>---</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Looks pretty human and arguably even
trans-human to me. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>It may be a bit idealistic and it may not be able
to be carried out</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>(that is up to people) but it doesn't seem to be
anti-human.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Brett Paatsch</FONT></DIV>
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