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<P><FONT SIZE=2>Thanks for the reply.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>I am seeking a theory that can explain the life and the universe (better to explain the meaning of life also).</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>I found also the idea of David Bohm who talked about an integrated theory of mind and matter.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>Bohm's idea is quite interesting. There may be some similar principles between mind and matter.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>Seems that you are a physicist. Maybe you can comment.</FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=2>Thanks.</FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=2>Walter.</FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=2>-----Original Message-----</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>From: extropy-chat-bounces@lists.extropy.org</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>[<A HREF="mailto:extropy-chat-bounces@lists.extropy.org">mailto:extropy-chat-bounces@lists.extropy.org</A>]On Behalf Of Amara Graps</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2004 9:03 PM</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>To: extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>Subject: RE: [extropy-chat] POLL: Principles of Extropy</FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=2>Walter_Chen at compal.com:</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>>I have one question: Is Extropy related to any ideas from Seth or Jane</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>>Roberts?</FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=2>:-) Well ...</FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=2>No to the _way_ that their ideas are discovered. I don't think that all</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>of their ideas are in conflict though. I don't know enough of the ideas</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>to be an authority on this topic, however. I just have read small</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>passages at web sites ....</FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=2>>Are they in agreement or in conflict?</FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=2>The ideas, or the way that the ideas are acquired? As far-fetched as</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>the Extropy ideas sound sometimes, the ideas don't include channeling</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>as a viable way.</FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=2>Never mind, though.</FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=2>Every person is a potential teacher, and if you have some good</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>filters, you can pick up some useful stuff. A couple of decades ago, I</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>lived for some years with a guy who read alot of the Seth/Jane Roberts</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>books, and I know that he was not crazy. He was a good filter for me</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>too.</FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=2>I'll filter a few quotes for you from my own Extropian perspective</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>(which could easily be different from another Extropian perspective,</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>YMMV), if you want.</FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=2>I think that these are good from Seth/Jane Roberts:</FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=2><A HREF="http://www.secretoflife.com/seth/s_quotes.html" TARGET="_blank">http://www.secretoflife.com/seth/s_quotes.html</A></FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=2>"Therefore, as always, make of this voice what you choose to make of</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>it. Make of me what you choose to make of me, but recognize within</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>yourselves the vitality of your being. And look to no man or no idea</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>or no woman or no dogma, but the vitality of your own being, and trust</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>it. And that which offends your soul, turn away from, but trust</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>yourself"</FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=2><A HREF="http://www.secretoflife.com/seth/s_quotes2.html" TARGET="_blank">http://www.secretoflife.com/seth/s_quotes2.html</A></FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=2>"The self has no boundaries except those it accepts out of ignorance"</FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=2>"If you are in poor health, you can remedy it. If your personal</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>relationships are unsatisfactory, you can change them for the better.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>If you are in poverty, you can find yourself surrounded by</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>abundance... Each of you, regardless of position, status,</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>circumstances, or physical condition, is in control or your own</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>experience."</FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=2>"You must learn to listen to the voice of the inner self and work with</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>it"</FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=2>"You create your reality according to your beliefs and expectations,</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>therefore you should examine these carefully. If you do not like some</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>aspect of your world, then examine your own expectations"</FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=2>Amara</FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=2>-- </FONT>
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