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Regarding both commments:<br><br>
1) What you see on the screen does not look like the inside of the box.
Computers, cars, brains, URLs<br><br>
2) Evolution somehow created "feelings" for mammals. The result
is better survival, for mammals. Deep feelings of connection with the all
of it, probably a modification of mother/child bonding, serves survival.
What this has to do with the 4 physical forces is hardly relevant. What
we see on the screen is obviously some function of the 4 forces, with a
whole lotta complexity. cars, brains, URLs too.<br><br>
3) Even if we ever determine the relation between the initial BCs and
final BCs, there is still the problem of observability. Note each cm^3 of
air has 10^19 molecules in it, and <u>any</u> way of finding out the
details will change them beyond recovery. Can you spell
'heisenberg'?<br><br>
4) Once we know brain mechanics in nanosystemic detail, feeling 'godly'
or 'connected' will be just one of the "Control Menu" options
we will all have. And a whole lot more options which I cannot begin to
imagine.<br><br>
5) After the Dewar (cryonics), my intention is to be an artist in
perception, inner and outer, with a focus on positive states including
those of the mystical.<br><br>
At 11:52 PM 11/14/2004, you wrote:<br>
<blockquote type=cite class=cite cite>> Basically I mean there should
be something else <br>
> as fundamental as the 4 forces at the beginning <br>
> of the universe such that I can feel this world <br>
> and my existence now.<br>
> Walter<br><br>
The (remote, eh) possibility that the state of the<br>
universe is a function both of some initial<br>
boundary condition and of some (*whatever*) final <br>
boundary condition, cannot be ruled out. In this<br>
case that "something else as fundamental as" could <br>
have some meaning (but different and less subjective). <br>
See, in example, Sommers here<br>
<a href="http://www.arxiv.org/abs/gr-qc/9404022" eudora="autourl">http://www.arxiv.org/abs/gr-qc/9404022</a>
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