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<P><FONT SIZE=2>I don't particularly believe in channeling in general.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>But for Seth in particular, Jane Roberts had written over 30 books.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>It's difficult to say it's just nonsense.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>Some of her ideas are very interesting.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>Maybe this is also the Principle of Complementarity: Some people believe, some people don't.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>For me, I just try to digest and reason what I think is good.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>For example, </FONT>
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<BR><FONT SIZE=2>The Unknown? Reality, Vol. 1 </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>by Jane Roberts</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>In this mind-stretching journey into the very frontiers of consciousness, Seth continues his discussions of the multidimensional nature of the human soul. In Seth Speaks, Seth introduced the concept of ?probable realities,? in which all possible choices are fully experienced by other portions of the self. Now, in this first volume of The ?Unknown? Reality, Seth explains the dazzling labyrinths of unseen probabilities involved in any decision, and how our awareness of these can enrich the waking life we know. In a fascinating exploration of the cosmic web of our existence, Seth reveals:</FONT></P>
<P><FONT SIZE=2>the purpose of dreams, and how they are often fulfilled unconsciously</FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=2>consciousness units? (CUs), electromagnetic energy units? (EEs), as the building blocks of our entire universe</FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=2>misconceptions about death and the afterlife</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>how different probable realities intersect and influence one another</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>the relationship between physical health and inner reality</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>explorers of the unknown reality ?the dream-art scientist, true mental physicist, complete physician; as dream-art disciplines for incorporating the ?blueprints? for reality into physical reality</FONT></P>
<P><FONT SIZE=2>a series of exercises to help you discover the unknown portions of your greater identity</FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=2>?The Seth books present an alternate map of reality with a new diagram of the psyche ... useful to all explorers of consciousness.? Deepak Chopra, M.D., author of Ageless Body, Timeless Mind</FONT></P>
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<P><FONT SIZE=2>Thanks.</FONT>
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<BR><FONT SIZE=2>Walter.</FONT>
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<BR><FONT SIZE=2>From: extropy-chat-bounces@lists.extropy.org [<A HREF="mailto:extropy-chat-bounces@lists.extropy.org">mailto:extropy-chat-bounces@lists.extropy.org</A>] On Behalf Of BillK</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>Sent: Monday, November 15, 2004 5:40 PM</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>To: ExI chat list</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>Subject: Re: [extropy-chat] Seth and other nonsense</FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=2>On Mon, 15 Nov 2004 14:43:34 +0800, walter_chen wrote:</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> But it also can not satisfy me if you say pure 4 physical forces alone can</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> evolve into </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> such complicated world and thoughtful human beings like you and me. </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> Maybe technology is not the best way to transcend the human limits. </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> And I don't understand why Seth-related stuff is nonsense. </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> </FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=2>If you *really* don't know why channeling is nonsense (or fraud) read:</FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=2>Demon-Haunted World</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>by CARL SAGAN, ANN DRUYAN</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>Carl Sagan muses on the current state of scientific thought, which</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>offers him marvelous opportunities to entertain us with his own</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>childhood experiences, the newspaper morgues, UFO stories, and the</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>assorted flotsam and jetsam of pseudoscience. Along the way he debunks</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>alien abduction, faith-healing, and channeling; refutes the arguments</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>that science destroys spirituality, and provides a "baloney detection</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>kit" for thinking through political, social, religious, and other</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>issues.</FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=2>Why People Believe Weird Things: Pseudoscience, Superstition, and</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>Other Confusions of Our Time</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>by Michael Schermer</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>Review <<A HREF="http://www.rathinker.co.kr/skeptic/refuge/weird.html" TARGET="_blank">http://www.rathinker.co.kr/skeptic/refuge/weird.html</A>></FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=2>BillK</FONT>
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