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<DIV><FONT face=Arial><FONT face=Tahoma><FONT size=2><STRONG>Behalf Of
</STRONG>Kevin Freels<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [extropy-chat] evolution
again<BR><BR></FONT></FONT>
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<DIV><SPAN class=851074504-01122004><FONT size=2>You are assuming, of course,
that the penis size is regulated by a standalone gene.<SPAN
class=586563006-01122004>..</SPAN></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=851074504-01122004><FONT size=2><SPAN
class=586563006-01122004>The notion of a survival cost to benefit ratio and a
separate attractiveness </SPAN></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=851074504-01122004><FONT size=2><SPAN
class=586563006-01122004>cost to benefit ratio does not require this
assumption. But let us go on. </SPAN></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=851074504-01122004><SPAN class=586563006-01122004></SPAN><FONT
size=2><SPAN class=586563006-01122004>></SPAN> Penis size could easily
be caused by genes that share control with other features as well. Butts could
be the same way. Not every phenotype has to have it's own selection pressure.
Many complex traits have phenotypes which can ride along with others since they
are all sharing various alleles.<SPAN
class=586563006-01122004>..</SPAN></FONT></SPAN><FONT size=2><SPAN
class=851074504-01122004>Kevin
Freels</SPAN></FONT></DIV></SPAN></DIV></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=586563006-01122004>Kevin I agree with
this fully, but the notion of a cost to benefit ratio still </SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=586563006-01122004>works,
</SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=586563006-01122004>does it
not? I have a notion that we are historically on the verge
of</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=586563006-01122004>being able to
model the entire human genome and its expression
in</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=586563006-01122004>meat. It
will require enormous amounts of computing power to do
it.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=586563006-01122004>Once we get that, we
will likely be able to manipulate DNA and thus</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=586563006-01122004>create anatomical
structures the way we want to be, not the way</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=586563006-01122004>we are. That
would be way cool.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
class=586563006-01122004>spike</SPAN></FONT></DIV></DIV></BODY></HTML>