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class=218191618-18032005>>> </SPAN>These would be civil matters which a
child or person who determines that injury has occurred might<BR><SPAN
class=218191618-18032005>>> </SPAN>seek damages of some sort for; if
sufficient proof specific to the cause and effect in the injured
party can be produced.</FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=218191618-18032005><FONT
face="Times New Roman" color=#000000 size=3>In the case of second hand smoke,
the increased risk of health damage is statistically cumulative in each incident
at each establishment they visit</FONT></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=218191618-18032005><FONT
face="Times New Roman" color=#000000 size=3>which allows the smoking to
occur.</FONT></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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face="Times New Roman" color=#000000 size=3></FONT></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=218191618-18032005><FONT
face="Times New Roman" color=#000000 size=3>The cost of a class action lawsuit
against those establishments visited over the course of their lives would be
very cost prohibitive and lead</FONT></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=218191618-18032005><FONT
face="Times New Roman" color=#000000 size=3>to a lack of legal recourse for the
individual.</FONT></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=218191618-18032005><FONT
face="Times New Roman" color=#000000 size=3>It's interesting to think though
that is was this type of class-action that the government brought against the
tobacco industry to collect for monies that the state had to put up to pay
medical costs for individuals damaged by direct
smoking.</FONT></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=218191618-18032005><FONT
face="Times New Roman" color=#000000 size=3>So now that that precedent has been
set. Why not go after establishments that cater to smokers in a similar
suit to pay for medical expenses of people damaged by second hand
smoking.</FONT></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=218191618-18032005><FONT
face="Times New Roman" color=#000000 size=3>Once a few such cases were won,
the insurance companies and business owners would do the
rest.</FONT></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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<FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>From:</B> extropy-chat-bounces@lists.extropy.org
[mailto:extropy-chat-bounces@lists.extropy.org] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Extropian
Agroforestry Ventures Inc.<BR><B>Sent:</B> Friday, March 18, 2005 10:34
AM<BR><B>To:</B> ExI chat list<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [extropy-chat] forgive my
pedantry, Mike<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>Gary Miller wrote:
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<DIV><STRONG><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT size=2><SPAN
class=250095314-18032005>> </SPAN>...but are you conceding that exposing
<EM>anyone,</EM> whether they be one or one hundred, to tobacco
smoke could be considered any sort of
a <EM><U>crime</U></EM>?</FONT></FONT></FONT></STRONG></DIV>
<DIV><STRONG><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT size=2><SPAN
class=250095314-18032005>></SPAN> 'Crime' is a pretty strong word to
describe tobacco smoke being in a helpless person's immediate environment
without ill-intent being
involved..<BR></FONT></FONT></FONT></STRONG></DIV></SPAN></DIV>
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color=#0000ff size=2>Drunk driving is still considered a crime even though the
drunk driver may not have any ill-intent of endangering a helpless
person.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=250095314-18032005><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>Both act contribute statistically to the death of
innocent individuals.</FONT></SPAN></DIV><BR>
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civil matters which a child or person who determines that injury has occurred
might<BR>seek damages of some sort for; if sufficient proof specific to
the cause and effect in the injured party can be
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