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I still find it still ironic that we still learn as much from
observation of and recombination from novelty in nature as from<br>
pure original science. Not to detract from the art of building with
legos VS the designing of lego systems from atoms<br>
but it appears that the IC is one of the few really novel things we
have come up with and that is what we are good at and therefore that is
where our success lies. <br>
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Learning how to create computational strings and recognize
computational signatures seems to be our purpose as a species.<br>
The singularity will be both a celebration and something of a
disappointment because it must be assumed until known otherwise <br>
that the rate of novelty will slow down unless the "wall" we hit drops
to reveal yet more new opportunities for<br>
exploration of change.<br>
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The redesigning of consciousness as we know it as we evolve into a more
stable bioform is maybe OK enough<br>
for stage we are at..... it was the magic and myth of eons of
civilization and now is the job at hand.<br>
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Mike Lorrey wrote:
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<pre wrap="">The beast you are describing is an ultra
extremophile that
would use catalytic elements like tungsten and other
high temperature
elements in its protiens and today would be
generally inert at normal
temps and pressures.
Such creatures already exist in the Archaea and
thrive throughout the
earth's crust.
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<pre wrap="">Point well taken. But it is still entrely possible
that the common ancestor of both Eubacteria and
Archaea came from outer space. The fact that Archaea
are such extremophiles make it likely they could exist
on other planets and not just the "garden" variety,
but in the crust of Io for example or under the frozen
oceans of Europa. They are fascinating little buggers
though. Eating iron, beathing sulfur . . . as alien as
you get without leaving Terra.
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The problem is that extremophiles tend to not survive extremes they
aren't built for. A high pressure, high temp extremophile doesn't do
well at low pressure/no pressure low temperature and vice versa. Bugs
evolved for cold just die as their protiens precipitate out of solution
when temps get too high. Hot, high pressure bugs see their protiens
contract so tight that they tear themselves apart.
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