<HTML><BODY style="word-wrap: break-word; -khtml-nbsp-mode: space; -khtml-line-break: after-white-space; "><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>I try to do it, to understand where people are coming from. Honestly it scares me sometimes, I see someone I respect or at least suspect of intelligence and they have an incompatible opinion. "Playing things out" - can help especially when wanting to explain your side to people who of the opposite opinion.</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>]3</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><BR><DIV><DIV>On Jul 23, 2005, at 11:25 PM, Samantha Atkins wrote:</DIV><BR class="Apple-interchange-newline"><BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">Perhaps. I don't find arguing positions I do not hold a particularly fruitful activity. At least not publicly. It seems to be too easily arguing as mere sport without really saying what you hold to be true. I have little patience for such.<DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>- samantha<DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV><BR><DIV><DIV>On Jul 23, 2005, at 6:38 PM, Bret Kulakovich wrote:</DIV><BR class="Apple-interchange-newline"><BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV>Thank you David, for this and your earlier post. Very refreshing.<DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>]3</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV><DIV><DIV>On Jul 23, 2005, at 2:48 PM, David Lubkin wrote:</DIV><BR class="Apple-interchange-newline"><BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 12.0px Helvetica">That I present a position does not mean that I either agree with it or do not. That was, in fact, a central theme of what I *was* saying -- I don't start from the premise that people who have different concerns or conclusions than I do are necessarily stupid, evil, or wrong. Rather, that there are viewpoints other than my own that are worth understanding, considering, and taking into account. And that, in most everything I believe to be true, I may in fact be wrong. Viz., extropian principle 7 --</FONT></DIV> </BLOCKQUOTE></DIV><BR></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">_______________________________________________</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">extropy-chat mailing list</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><A href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</A></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><A href="http://lists.extropy.org/mailman/listinfo/extropy-chat">http://lists.extropy.org/mailman/listinfo/extropy-chat</A></DIV> <BR class="Apple-interchange-newline"></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV><BR></DIV></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">_______________________________________________</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">extropy-chat mailing list</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><A href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</A></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><A href="http://lists.extropy.org/mailman/listinfo/extropy-chat">http://lists.extropy.org/mailman/listinfo/extropy-chat</A></DIV> <BR class="Apple-interchange-newline"></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV><BR></BODY></HTML>