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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I think so, but only if the people of that caliber
decide to run for the office and do a good job at it. </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, August 08, 2005 6:01
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [extropy-chat] can't war
protesters do better?</DIV>
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<DIV>Questions for both of you: do you think we can elect a heavyweight, a man
or woman of Churchillian caliber for president in 2008? The founders wanted us
to select a president every four years, so since we're saddled with that
system for the forseeable future do you think we can make better
choices in electing our chief executives? </DIV>
<DIV>Or is the concept of great statesmen & women passe'?<BR><BR>:</DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE class=replbq
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wrote:<BR><BR>>It's such a shame that you have such a limited view of
people. You have this<BR>>nasty problem with grouping people rather than
looking at them as<BR>>individuals. I voted for Bush twice and I am
hardly the idiot that you are<BR>>speaking of.<BR>><BR>Fooled twice,
huh? Sad.<BR><BR>> I am a thinking individual.<BR>><BR><BR>Everyone
is. See, my opinion of people generally isn't so bad.<BR><BR>> I am not a
neo-con<BR>><BR><BR>Maybe you are, have you checked their official
views?<BR><BR>> and I certainly<BR>>don't support his religious
views.<BR>><BR><BR>They're unrelated.<BR><BR>> I am an atheist and I
disagree with many<BR>>parts of the Bush agenda.<BR>> <BR>><BR>Just
the part about killing arabs for grins and giggles, huh?<BR><BR>>If you
are the thinking person that you claim to be, you will real! ize
soon<BR>>that the left is just as guilty as the right when it comes to
polarizing<BR>>voters in an attempt to win elections.<BR>><BR><BR>Of
course, the so-called "left" is really just a shill for the so-called
<BR>"right". I think I've said that here before.<BR><BR>>So why does an
atheist transhumanist vote in support of an administration<BR>>with a
religious ideology? <BR>><BR><BR>And a penchant for war
profiteering?<BR><BR>>Kerry though, probably<BR>>couldn;t even predict
what Kerry was going to do<BR>><BR>Funny, I recall him spelling out
exactly what he was going to do. He <BR>was going to go to the UN,
appologize for having invaded Iraq and ask <BR>for their assistance in
establishing a legitmate and peaceful government <BR>in Iraq. A reasonable
proposition that I think would have been welcomed <BR>at the
UN.<BR><BR>>I knew exactly where Bush stands <BR>><BR>Kerry was a
flip-flopper wildcard. Bush is a sturdy known quantity. I <BR>get it!
Better. the devil you know than the devil you don't.<BR><BR>Me, on the other
hand, I regarded the pineapple up my @ss as unbearable <BR>and anything was
worth the switch.<BR><BR>>And I am not a Bush supporter by the
way.<BR>><BR>We all make only practical choices. I'm not a kerry
supporter, so in <BR>the end, I voted for my father. I learned long ago that
they never <BR>listen to me anyway.<BR><BR>> I could care less who
the<BR>>president is or what party he is affiliated
with.<BR>><BR><BR>Me neither.<BR><BR>> The issues are
much<BR>>greater than any one person. I will be glad to debate you on any
issue, but<BR>>a debate on who is a better president is
lunacy.<BR>><BR>Well, lets start with - is George Bush a criminal and
should he be tried <BR>for his crimes?<BR><BR>I, personally, think that was
the most decisive reason -not- to vote for <BR>georgy last time
around.<BR><BR>> A reasonable debate can<BR>>only be obtained if we
could first agree on each objective, every issue and<BR>>it's importance.
Then we could argue about how effectively this president<BR>>carried out
those objectives and handled each issue. Otherwise you are<BR>>wasting
your time comparing apples to oranges.<BR>> <BR>><BR><BR>I don't think
this the proper, but I'm willing to have a civil <BR>conversation about
it.<BR><BR>Robbie<BR><BR>_______________________________________________<BR>extropy-chat
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