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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I was reading in the article that the cells live
and die faster in these mice and yet they said this could mean that the mice
live longer. This seems counter-intuitive. Joao's post seems to indicate that
they may be shorter lived. This isn't my area of expertise. Can anyone sort out
this contradiction? </FONT></DIV>
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href="mailto:rafal.smigrodzki@gmail.com">Rafal Smigrodzki</A> </DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, August 30, 2005 2:32
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [extropy-chat] Scientists
create 'miracle mice' that</DIV>
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<DIV>I'll try to post my impressions during and after the conference - I am
looking forward to meeting Fahy, West, Campisi and all the other warriors for
longevity :)<BR><BR>Rafal<BR><BR> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=gmail_quote>On 8/30/05, <B class=gmail_sendername>Joao
Magalhaes</B> <<A
href="mailto:jpnitya@verizon.net">jpnitya@verizon.net</A>> wrote:</SPAN>
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style="PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid">It's
not impossible, considering the already proven capacity for<BR>regeneration
of MRL mice. I should point out, however, that MRL mice, <BR>despite their
regenerative capacity, appear to be short-lived (Ellen<BR>Heber-Katz, pers.
comm.). So regenerative potential alone, despite it's<BR>great impact for
human medicine, is not necessarily related to aging. More <BR>detailed aging
studies in these animals are needed, though.<BR><BR>Yes, that's the
conference Aubrey is organizing.<BR><BR>Cheers,<BR><BR>Joao<BR><BR>At 01:28
PM 30/8/2005, you wrote:<BR>>It sounds bogus--too good to be true--to me,
but <BR>>here's the link to the full times article.<BR>><BR>>Also,
I noticed this from the article:<BR>><BR>>"Details of the research
will be presented next week<BR>>at a scientific conference on ageing,
Strategies for <BR>>Engineered Negligible Senescence, at
Cambridge<BR>>University."<BR>><BR>>Aubrey de Grey's bailiwick,
right?<BR>><BR>><A
href="http://www.timesonline.co.uk/newspaper/0,,176-1754008,00.html">http://www.timesonline.co.uk/newspaper/0,,176-1754008,00.html
</A><BR>><BR>>Best, Jeff
Davis<BR>><BR>> "Everything's hard till you
know how to do
it."<BR>> Ray
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