<HTML><BODY style="word-wrap: break-word; -khtml-nbsp-mode: space; -khtml-line-break: after-white-space; "><BR><DIV><DIV>On Sep 8, 2005, at 3:38 PM, Adrian Tymes wrote:</DIV><BR class="Apple-interchange-newline"><BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">--- Samantha Atkins <<A href="mailto:sjatkins@mac.com">sjatkins@mac.com</A>> wrote:</DIV> <BR><BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Business has no way of legally initiating force against anyone.<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Governments do.<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>This is the crucial and often overlooked difference<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">in a nutshell.</DIV> <BR></BLOCKQUOTE><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Ah, but is it force to lie to someone and sell them poison when they</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">think they are purchasing food?<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> <BR></SPAN></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV>Yes. it is fraud. Which is illegal. Again. business has no mans of *legally* initiating force. That is the sole province of government. That is why it behooves us to carefully delimit government.</DIV><DIV><BR><BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>Is it force to make sure that</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">customers have access to complete (or as complete as possible)</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">information about a company before doing business with them?</DIV></BLOCKQUOTE><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV>That depends on the type of informaiton and how it was gathered and is neither here no there for what I was attempting to communicate. </DIV><DIV><BR><BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV><DIV><FONT class="Apple-style-span" color="#0000DD">- samantha</FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>