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Mike Lorrey wrote:<br>
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--- Adrian Tymes <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:wingcat@pacbell.net"><wingcat@pacbell.net></a> wrote:
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<pre wrap="">Everyone has a choice. Not everyone has the resolve and self
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to see things through. If a company offers you and your lawyer a
settlement on condition of non-disclosure, it is your choice to
accept the settlement or not. Nobody is twisting your arm.
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<pre wrap="">What if it's the only way to get food? What if all the food
manufacturers require the same? You don't have to purchase food from
them - except that you have to get your food somewhere, and not
everyone can grow their own food.
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It would be extremely stupid for ALL food makers to do that, because it
automatically creates a market for non-secret food if consumers want
it, and thus opens the door to competition.
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Anybody who screws with the regulatory system risks proscecution, and
seizure of commodities, or worse.<br>
I have had experience with this. I gave another farmer some lupin
seed in 1984 and before the gov't was done with me<br>
it cost me 500$ and a day in court.<br>
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Everyone CAN grow their own food, if they so choose. There are, even in
cities, many public spaces for gardeners to have their own personal
plots. The question is whether they choose to grow their own food.
There is not a lack of arable land in the world. Many countries have a
surplus of it. If you choose to live someplace without such available,
that is your choice. There are no laws preventing you from moving
someplace else. Stop making excuses.
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My opinion is that simple food will not cut it if you want to live
beyond your 3 score and ten<br>
unless you have above average genes. Designer foods will not be public
domain and you certainly<br>
will not be able to transport your seed from one jurasdiction to
another without 3rd party permissions.<br>
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<pre wrap="">Nor is there any monolithic soylent green corporation, nor is there any
likelihood there will be. Commodity production industries tend to not
conglomerate very well. There are limits. Monsanto, even, is limited to
producing seed. If they went into business of buying up all farmland,
they'd have to not just buy up all farmland currently in use, but all
arable, unused land, AND not use the arable unused land WHILE PAYING
PROPERTY TAXES ON IT, in order to keep that unused land out of use by
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John Deere and others have systems onboard equipment that with a few
minor alterations would<br>
like onstar keep a third party ever aware of where you were and exactly
what use you are putting<br>
all your equipment to. Of course this is for nearly new stuff, but in
time the old stuff will be gone<br>
and those new systems will be all anyone has to work with.<br>
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<pre wrap="">others. The amount of land they'd have to buy would be in the tens of
trillions of dollars in value.
Even if Monsanto bought up all the seed companies in the world, new
competitors would spring up every day, because seeds cannot be monopolized.
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Not so, they are. Ever hear of plant breeder's rights.To grow hemp I
need a police criminal records check, <br>
a multipage app form, GPSmaps, all signed and done to exacting specs.
I must buy certified seed from<br>
a licenced, approved, inspected grower, I must pay for inspection and
lab testing of my crop and by law<br>
I must grow no less than 10 acres of crop. Just plug that one into your
backyard urban survival garden<br>
for size.<br>
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Let me tell you, This year for one of my fields I had the crop seeded
and cut down in swaths waiting for the combine<br>
before I got the actual permit to seed the crop into my hands, it's
just that fussy.<br>
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Seeds are becoming very closely held properties. Very soon you will
need a licence and more to grow<br>
or even possess a lot of them.<br>
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Agriculture is changing, and with recent radical move in energy costs
will likely change dramatically over the next 48 months.<br>
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