<br><br><div><span class="gmail_quote">On 9/25/05, <b class="gmail_sendername">The Avantguardian</b> <<a href="mailto:avantguardian2020@yahoo.com">avantguardian2020@yahoo.com</a>> wrote:</span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
<br><br>--- Marc Geddes <<a href="mailto:m_j_geddes@yahoo.com.au">m_j_geddes@yahoo.com.au</a>> wrote:<br><br>> Well, I think the Bayesian framework is definitely<br>> on the right track but seriously incomplete. You
<br>> see, I think *physics* causality is *not* the only<br>> kind of causality there is! I've reached the<br>> conclusion that there are in fact<br>> *three different kinds* of causality, and the<br>> current Bayesian framework only deals with ONE of
<br>> them (the physics kind). So if I'm right there are<br>> really three different Bayesian frameworks. And no<br>> one has the faintest idea what the other two consist<br>> of.<br><br>Marc, please explain why you think there are three
<br>kinds of causality. As far as I know, even the<br>"physics causality" you speak of is contentious in<br>that temporal ordering of events is dependent on ones<br>inertial frame of reference in relativity. On the
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The ordering is not depoendent, merely the measured interval.<br>
Except EPR measurements that do not transmit useable information. <br>
</div><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">other end of the scale, there are experiments that<br>seem to violate causality in quantum mechanics (
e.g. ,<br>EPR paradox, quantum erasure, etc). In light of this,<br>on what basis do you contend that not only is standard<br>causality real but that there are two other kinds?<br>After all any number of angels can be conjectured to
<br>dance on the tip of a unicorn's horn, yet without<br>proof of angels or unicorns, the conjecture is<br>baseless.<br><br><br><br>The Avantguardian<br>is<br>Stuart LaForge<br>alt email: stuart"AT"<a href="http://ucla.edu">
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