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<A title=jef@jefallbright.net href="mailto:jef@jefallbright.net">Jef
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, October 15, 2005 2:43
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [extropy-chat] A view of
what politics is.</DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=gmail_quote>On 10/14/05, <B class=gmail_sendername>Brett
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href="mailto:bpaatsch@bigpond.net.au">bpaatsch@bigpond.net.au</A>>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Jeff Allbright wrote:</FONT></DIV>
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suggested that we think of politics as "social decision-making applied
to groups, expecially with respect to methods of influence within those
processes."<BR></DIV></SPAN>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I'm getting stuck with phrase "social
decision-making". </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I'm wondering </FONT><FONT face=Arial
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>That I'm getting stuck, that I'm wondering, or
that social decison-making is an oxymoron? </FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I left that exercise for you. You said you
were frustrated. So was I. </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>You asked for comment, I gave it.
</FONT> <FONT face=Arial size=2>Sometimes the email medium makes comment
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Sometimes frankly the thickness of the one one is
conversing with does. I feel that way sometimes, although not usually with
you.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I presumed you might too thats why I put the
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I might have cut out more than you wanted me in
this reply but I prefer to focus on the crux of the
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size=2></FONT><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT><BR><BR>Well, Lizbeth and I just
got home from a wonderful Moroccan dinner and my thoughts are more on belly
dancing than dialog at the moment. [Added Dionysian aside for benefit of Jean
Paul who would like to see us lighten up.] <BR><BR> In the part of the
email that you cut, I did try to explain.</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>So did I. </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>You seemed to miss the point. Yet you evidence it.
People prioritise their time even within social contexts. People make choices
about what they attend to. Some prefer Moroccan dinners or light banter to
discussions about politics. </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Brett Paatsch</FONT></DIV>
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