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spike wrote:<br>
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<pre wrap="">Dirk Bruere wrote:
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<pre wrap="">And the politically correct are OK about converting farmland from food
to fuel production in an increasingly hungry world?
Dirk
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Increasingly hungry? We have an ever-increasing problem
in the west with producing way too much food. Prices
for most food crops are terrible. Sure there
are hungry places on this planet, but producing more
here cannot help that. It is not economically viable
to ship it there. If the politically correct have a
solution that will help the hungry and still pay the
farmers, I am all ears.
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We have the food quantity down pretty well, it is now the pharma
phytochemicals that can augment<br>
healthspan that need to be pushed even if it reduces the bulk of the
food material production<br>
mechanisms.<br>
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In some ways we will be transforming crops into "santa claus" machines
able to produce many different<br>
products on demand.<br>
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Let the bulk base materials be grown for the least distance to
transport the major volumes but let the<br>
minor phytochemicals be grown where the logistics are the worst for
bulk volume production economics.<br>
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<pre wrap=""><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:bounces@lists.extropy.org">bounces@lists.extropy.org</a>] On Behalf Of Lifespan Pharma Inc.
Subject: Re: [extropy-chat] gm biodiesel 'em
... the phytochemicals in the canola/rape plant foliage must be worth
enough as food and industrial ingredients
to justify the majority of the resource petrochemical inputs to be
used to simply produce more petrochemical inputs.
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I have a notion that we will develop agriculture
techniques that use far less energy than current
practices. We will find ways to cultivate crops
without the energy intensive and costly procedure
of disking soil for instance. Canola and winter
rye are appealing in that they are nitrogen fixers,
which allow me to reduce investment in certain
fertilizers for the next crop.
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Canola and winter rye are nitogen users, especially canola.<br>
It's the legumes peas, chickeas, soybeans that can get closer to taking
care<br>
of themselves.<br>
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But you're otherwise right. Perennial wheat with a good bit of gene
tweaking could not only<br>
perform like its annual sibling but also be the source of
phytochemicals if specially bred lines were stimulated<br>
epigenetically prior to a growth season.<br>
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Biopharmmag.com had the budgets for biotech crop pharming about 2 years
ago and its past set and mark<br>
and ready for GO.<br>
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<pre wrap="">I am keeping an eye on oil-bearing crops, for I
know that legislatures often do wacky knee-jerk
reactions to oil shortages, such as offering absurdly
large subsidies to producers of ethanol and
biodiesel. My libertarian side is offended by this,
but my righteous indignation is easily overpowered
by my righteous capitalist desire to collect these
funds.
t
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