<br><br><div><span class="gmail_quote">On 10/23/05, <b class="gmail_sendername">Damien Sullivan</b> <<a href="mailto:phoenix@ugcs.caltech.edu">phoenix@ugcs.caltech.edu</a>> wrote:</span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
On Sun, Oct 23, 2005 at 09:38:36AM -0500, Greg Burch wrote:<br>><br>> Yes, but your comment begs the question of from whence comes the<br>> electricity. This is the issue I have with what I think of as<br>
<br>No, Dirk said "then totally renewable becomes feasible"; I infer he meant<br>solar/wind/tides/whatnot becomes useful for baseline power.<br><br>Alternatively, accept less than 80% efficiency and just suck in more power.
<br>10 billion people solar-powered at 50 kW/capita (input energy, not out of the<br>wall) is feasible, I think. My model had been 20 kW toward electricity and<br>the rest to make synthetic hydrocarbons from CO2 (at 11% efficiency, a bit
<br>higher than plants, *cough*) but if one assumes 10% overall that gives 5 kW of<br>usable power, which is still First World (at least in good climates) level,<br>though not US level.<br><br></blockquote></div>Depends on what that 5kW encompasses.
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I (my house) use less than 5kW/hr per day of electricity.<br>
However, you have to factor in transport energy and energy required to produce food and material goods.<br>
Not sure how that adds up.<br>
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Dirk<br>