<br><br><div><span class="gmail_quote">On 11/2/05, <b class="gmail_sendername">spike</b> <<a href="mailto:spike66@comcast.net">spike66@comcast.net</a>> wrote:</span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
<br><a href="mailto:bounces@lists.extropy.org">bounces@lists.extropy.org</a>] On Behalf Of Dirk Bruere<br><br>> Subject: RE: [extropy-chat] Extropic Freedom and the Fate of Dissidents<br>><br>> --- spike <<a href="mailto:spike66@comcast.net">
spike66@comcast.net</a>> wrote:<br>><br>> > I am often seen going about with a bottle of<br>> > distilled water and a SCUBA tank....<br><br>In response to a comment by Avantguardian that<br>went something like: I live in Taxifornia where
<br>socialism is in the air we breathe and the water<br>we drink.<br><br>LOL!<br>US 'socialism' is what we Europeans call rabid right wing government.<br><br><br>I have always been a fan of rabies.<br><br>{8^D<br><br>Dirk, which country are you from? I am interested
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England <br>
</div><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">in European politics to see how you guys solve the<br>pension problem. We yanks have a social security
<br>fund that is supposed to go bust in 2038, but I<br>heard Germany and France are facing a similar<br>sitch with more urgency.<br><br>I don't know that either right or left has a<br>good solution to this. If so I haven't heard it.
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There is the incredibly obvious solution of raising or abolishing the retirement age for state pensions.<br>
The alternative is importing tens of millions of immigrants.<br>
However, one study for the UK showed that to maintain a suitable
'pensions demographics' our population would have to double over the
next 40yrs from 60m to 120m.<br>
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Anyway, my Transhumanist belief is that within 20-30yrs lifespan will
have been radically extended and the idea of people retiring at 60 and
spending the next 200+yrs on a state pension (or almost any other for
that matter) is ludicrous.<br>
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Dirk<br>