<br><br><div><span class="gmail_quote">On 11/7/05, <b class="gmail_sendername">Jack Parkinson</b> <<a href="mailto:isthatyoujack@icqmail.com">isthatyoujack@icqmail.com</a>> wrote:</span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
Dirk said:<br>>Obviously.<br>>If they weren't particularly integrated you wouldn't know them.<br>>Let me guess - those Moslems were well educated middle class professionals?<br><br>> It is evidence of a religiously (self) defined self ghettoising and
<br>generally racially distinct underclass that may well be a permanent feature<br>of the European landscape.<br>Dirk<br><br>A 'self ghettoising and generally racially distinct underclass' - this<br>appears to put the onus squarely onto these people I think.
<br><br>Isn't it just an exercise in shifting blame?<br><br>Any 'middle-class professional' of any race or creed must find it a lot<br>easier to integrate and achieve acceptance in a new country. Perhaps we<br>should condemn the poor for their effrontery in not being middle-class and
<br>having a decent degree?<br><br>Generalizations about Moslems are worthless. PEOPLE (of any race or creed)<br>live in ghettos in any part of the world where they feel the need to support<br>each other against a hostile environment. If the environment is not
<br>ostile - the ghettoes disappear. There are no Moslem ghettoes in Australia,<br>or China for that matter - and NOT coincidentally there is a general<br>acceptance and tolerance between Moslem/Christian/Buddhists in these places.
<br><br>If that peace should suddenly shatter because a few fundamentalists start<br>start lobbing explosives, we might start to see a similar situation to the<br>one developing in Europe and the US...<br>Jack Parkinson<br>
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