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<DIV><B>From:</B> <A title=dirk.bruere@gmail.com
href="mailto:dirk.bruere@gmail.com">Dirk Bruere</A></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=gmail_quote>>> On 11/17/05, <B
class=gmail_sendername>Terry W. Colvin</B> <<A
href="mailto:fortean1@mindspring.com">fortean1@mindspring.com</A>> wrote:
[</SPAN>Forwarding comments from John Forester, son of C.S.
Forester. -Terry]<BR>Bush's attitude makes it very difficult for the
Democrats to work out a better plan for recovery from this problem. As it is,
they seem to be unable to get beyond a desire to get our troops out, as the
contrast to Bush's insistence that the only patriotic act is to keep</DIV><FONT
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<DIV><BR>> The obvious answer is to withdraw the troops and replace them with
a pan-Arab UN force. Return the problem to its rightful owners.</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Seems reasonable to me. I am no military
expert, but I may be on par, militarily speaking, with some of the people
towards the bottom of this list (and wouldn't Bush like to distort THIS historic
list):</FONT></DIV>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 18px">military records <BR></SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT><FONT
face="Comic Sans MS, Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12px"><BR>Democrats:<BR>* Richard Gephardt: Air National
Guard, 1965-71.<BR>* David Bonior: Staff Sgt., Air Force 1968-72.<BR>* Tom
Daschle: 1st Lt., Air Force SAC 1969-72.<BR>* Al Gore: enlisted Aug. 1969; sent
to Vietnam Jan. 1971 as an army<BR> journalist in 20th Engineer
Brigade.<BR>* Bob Kerrey: Lt. j.g. Navy 1966-69; Medal of Honor, Vietnam.<BR>*
Daniel Inouye: Army 1943-47; Medal of Honor, WWII.<BR>* John Kerry: Lt., Navy
1966-70; Silver Star, Bronze Star with Combat V, Purple Hearts.<BR>* Charles
Rangel: Staff Sgt., Army 1948-52; Bronze Star, Korea.<BR>* Max Cleland: Captain,
Army 1965-68; Silver Star & Bronze Star,<BR> Vietnam.
Paraplegic from war injuries. Served in Congress.<BR>* Ted Kennedy: Army,
1951-53.<BR>* Tom Harkin: Lt., Navy, 1962-67; Naval Reserve, 1968-74.<BR>* Jack
Reed: Army Ranger, 1971-1979; Captain, Army Reserve 1979-91.<BR>* Fritz
Hollings: Army officer in WWII; Bronze Star and seven campaign ribbons.<BR>*
Leonard Boswell: Lt. Col., Army 1956-76; Vietnam, DFCs,
Bronze<BR> Stars,and Soldier's Medal.<BR>* Pete Peterson: Air
Force Captain, POW. Purple Heart, Silver Star and Legion of Merit.<BR>* Mike
Thompson: Staff sergeant, 173rd Airborne, Purple Heart.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Comic Sans MS, Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12px">* Bill McBride: Candidate for Fla. Governor. Marine in
Vietnam; Bronze Star with Combat <BR></SPAN></FONT><FONT
face="Comic Sans MS, Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12px">*
Gray Davis: Army Captain in Vietnam, Bronze Star.<BR>* Pete Stark: Air Force
1955-57<BR>* Chuck Robb: Vietnam<BR>* Howell Heflin: Silver Star<BR>* George
McGovern: Silver Star & DFC during WWII.<BR>* Bill Clinton: Did not serve.
Student deferments. Entered draft but received #311.<BR>* Jimmy Carter: Seven
years in the Navy.<BR>* Walter Mondale: Army 1951-1953<BR>* John Glenn: WWII and
Korea; six DFCs and AirMedal with 18 Clusters.<BR>* Tom Lantos: Served in
Hungarian underground in WWII. Saved by Raoul Wallenberg.<BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>AND NOW FOR SOMETHING COMPLETELY
DIFFERENT:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT><FONT face=Arial
size=2></FONT><BR>Republicans -- and these are the guys sending people to
war:<BR>* Dick Cheney: did not serve. Several deferments, the last by
marriage.<BR>* Dennis Hastert: did not serve.<BR>* Tom Delay: did not
serve.<BR>* Roy Blunt: did not serve.<BR>* Bill Frist: did not serve.<BR>* Mitch
McConnell: did not serve.<BR>* Rick Santorum: did not serve.<BR>* Trent Lott:
did not serve.<BR>* John Ashcroft: did not serve. Seven deferments to teach
business.<BR>* Jeb Bush: did not serve.<BR>* Karl Rove: did not serve.<BR>*
Saxby Chambliss: did not serve. "Bad knee." The man who attacked Max
Cleland's<BR> patriotism.<BR>* Paul Wolfowitz: did not
serve.<BR>* Vin Weber: did not serve.<BR>* Richard Perle: did not serve.<BR>*
Douglas Feith: did not serve.<BR>* Eliot Abrams: did not serve.<BR>* Richard
Shelby: did not serve.<BR>* Jon! Kyl: did not serve.<BR>* Tim Hutchison: did not
serve.<BR>* Christopher Cox: did not serve.<BR>* Newt Gingrich: did not
serve.<BR>* Don Rumsfeld: served in Navy (1954-57) as flight instructor.<BR>*
George W. Bush: failed to complete his six-year National Guard; got assigned to
Alabama <BR> so he could campaign for family
friend running for US. Senate; failed to show up for
<BR> required medical exam, disappeared from duty.<BR>*
Ronald Reagan: due to poor eyesight, served in a non- combat role making
movies.<BR>* B-1 Bob Dornan: Consciously enlisted after fighting was over in
Korea.<BR>* Phil Gramm: did not serve.<BR>* John McCain: Vietnam POW, Silver
Star, Bronze Star, Legion of Merit,<BR> Purple Heart and
Distinguished Flying Cross.<BR>* Dana Rohrabacher: did not serve.<BR>* John M.
McHugh: did not serve.<BR>* JC Watts: did not serve.<BR>* Jack Kemp: did not
serve. "Knee problem, " although continued in NFL for 8 years as
<BR> quarterback.<BR>* Dan Quayle: Journalism unit of the
Indiana National Guard.<BR>* Rudy Giuliani: did not serve.<BR>* George Pataki:
did not serve.<BR>* Spencer Abraham: did not serve.<BR>* John Engler: did not
serve.<BR>* Lindsey Graham: National Guard lawyer.<BR>* Arnold Schwarzenegger:
AWOL from Austrian army base.<BR><BR> Pundits & Preachers<BR>*
Sean Hannity: did not serve.<BR>* Rush Limbaugh: did not serve (4-F with a
'pilonidal cyst.')<BR>* Bill O'Reilly: did not serve.<BR>* Michael Savage: did
not serve.<BR>* George Will: did not serve.<BR>* Chris Matthews: did not
serve.<BR>* Paul Gigot: did not serve.<BR>* Bill Bennett: did not serve.<BR>*
Pat Buchanan: did not serve.<BR>* John Wayne: did not serve.<BR>* Bill Kristol:
did not serve.<BR>* Kenneth Starr: did not serve.<BR>* Antonin Scalia: did not
serve.<BR>* Clarence Thomas: did not serve.<BR>* Ralph Reed: did not serve.<BR>*
Michael Medved: did not serve.<BR>* Charlie Daniels: did not serve.<BR>* Ted
Nugent: did not serve. (He only shoots at things that don't shoot
back)<BR><BR></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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