<HTML><BODY style="word-wrap: break-word; -khtml-nbsp-mode: space; -khtml-line-break: after-white-space; ">Nonsense like this is one of the reasons I will not consider emigration to Canada. However Canadians seem to have a delightful propensity to tell their government to buzz off when it gets too wacky.<DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>- s</DIV><DIV><BR><DIV><DIV>On Nov 19, 2005, at 8:43 PM, Morris Johnson wrote:</DIV><BR class="Apple-interchange-newline"><BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><DIV>Hve not read all the content but have a few comments to add:</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>JD lives in Canada as do I and that limits the</DIV> <DIV>novelty of the products he can sell.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>As of Jan 01 all products must have NHPD</DIV> <DIV>product licences and any mfg must be site licenced.</DIV> <DIV>GMP and SOP's acceptable to Health Canada</DIV> <DIV>must be submitted alon with a product specific data set. Staff must have edu standing commensurate</DIV> <DIV>with their job capacity and a QA officer must sign off</DIV> <DIV>on all apps.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>This means the ante in $$$ is going up a fair bit.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Reselling HC licenced NHP's is the only option.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I say this because I have spent the last months </DIV> <DIV>getting up to spec with what is required and will have to</DIV> <DIV>take 4 months of HACCP training to get up to the barest of bones QA signoff level.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>However there are loopholes.. the custom</DIV> <DIV>compounding of NHP's from raw ingredients is one.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>All the other basic business rules then apply otherwise.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Morris Johnson</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>...<BR><BR> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class="gmail_quote">On 11/19/05, <B class="gmail_sendername">Gary Miller</B> <<A href="mailto:aiguy@comcast.net">aiguy@comcast.net</A>> wrote:</SPAN> <BLOCKQUOTE class="gmail_quote" style="PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid"><BR>I'd add the following although I don't disagree with any of your high level<BR>goals. These goals could vary depending on the size of your enterprise. <BR><BR>5. A good IT group to give you a net presence and minimize the expenses of<BR>running your operation from inventory control, manufacturing and accounting<BR>perspective.<BR><BR>6. A just in time inventory system to reduce your inventory carrying cost <BR>and reduce spoilage in the vitamin ingredients that have a short shelf life.<BR>Also consider coatings which could delay oxidation of ingredients. I hate<BR>it when my vitamins go bad and I half to hold my breath when I take them. <BR>And no I'm not going to throw away $20 woth of vitamins just because they<BR>smell bad.<BR><BR>7. A quality control lab to perform receiving inspection on your ingredients<BR>to protect your image/reputation and to protect your company from liability. <BR>(Remembering GNC L-Tryptophen disaster from years back)<BR><BR>8. A good work environment, fair pay, benefits and background checks to<BR>reduce likelihood of product tampering, employee theft, extreme addiction<BR>problems, etc... again to protect image/reputation and liability costs. <BR><BR>9. A five year business plan which will allow you plan for growth, obtain<BR>credit for expansion, and allow you to value your business for insurance<BR>purposes or potential sale.<BR><BR>10. A R&D group to devise vitamin combinations to reduce the number of pills <BR>people need to take each morning for specific consumer problems and/or<BR>gender/age groups. This also serves to differentiate your line vitamins<BR>from those of your competition.<BR><BR>-----Original Message-----<BR> From: <A href="mailto:extropy-chat-bounces@lists.extropy.org">extropy-chat-bounces@lists.extropy.org</A><BR>[mailto:<A href="mailto:extropy-chat-bounces@lists.extropy.org">extropy-chat-bounces@lists.extropy.org</A>] On Behalf Of Jonathan <BR>Despres<BR>Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2005 6:23 PM<BR>To: <A href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</A><BR>Subject: [extropy-chat] A successful company?<BR><BR>Hi,<BR><BR>I want to know what we need to become a successful company (I am in the <BR>vitamin business), here is my opinion:<BR><BR>1) We need to buy our products very cheaply and sell high (This is a trade<BR>minimum to do)<BR><BR>2) We need talented people to do the essential job<BR><BR>3) We need a good image/reputation <BR><BR>4) We need a good product.<BR><BR>Any other thing I miss ?<BR><BR>--Jon<BR>_______________________________________________<BR>extropy-chat mailing list<BR><A href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org </A><BR><A href="http://lists.extropy.org/mailman/listinfo/extropy-chat">http://lists.extropy.org/mailman/listinfo/extropy-chat</A><BR><BR><BR>_______________________________________________<BR>extropy-chat mailing list<BR> <A href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</A><BR><A href="http://lists.extropy.org/mailman/listinfo/extropy-chat">http://lists.extropy.org/mailman/listinfo/extropy-chat</A><BR></BLOCKQUOTE> </DIV><BR><BR clear="all"><BR>-- <BR>LIFESPAN PHARMA Inc.<BR>Extropian Agroforestry Ventures Inc.<BR>Mission: To Preserve, Protect and Enhance Lifespan<BR>Plant-based Natural-health Bio-product Bio-pharmaceuticals<BR><A href="http://www.angelfire.com/on4/extropian-lifespan"> http://www.angelfire.com/on4/extropian-lifespan</A><BR><A href="http://www.4XtraLifespans.bravehost.com">http://www.4XtraLifespans.bravehost.com</A><BR><A href="mailto:megao@sasktel.net">megao@sasktel.net</A>, <A href="mailto:arla_j@hotmail.com"> arla_j@hotmail.com</A>, <A href="mailto:mfj.eav@gmail.com">mfj.eav@gmail.com</A><BR><A href="mailto:extropian.pharmer@gmail.com">extropian.pharmer@gmail.com</A><BR><BR>Extreme Life-Extension ..."The most dangerous idea on earth" <BR>-Leon Kass , Bioethics Advisor to George Herbert Walker Bush,<BR>June 2005<BR><BR>Radical Life-Extension Bioscience<BR>+ Total Information Awareness Globalized Info-science<BR>= The 21st Century Paradigm ........ <BR>Re-inventing the Human Condition with Quantum to Macro Biomolecular-engineering<BR>*"I will live each and every 50 years, one at a time, like the days of a week".... 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