<br><br><div><span class="gmail_quote">On 11/29/05, <b class="gmail_sendername">gts</b> <<a href="mailto:gts_2000@yahoo.com">gts_2000@yahoo.com</a>> wrote:</span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
On Mon, 28 Nov 2005 15:07:36 -0500, Dirk Bruere <<a href="mailto:dirk.bruere@gmail.com">dirk.bruere@gmail.com</a>><br>wrote:<br><br>> Even if that is true, it still leaves open the question of the<br>> communication between matter and intelligence such that qualia are
<br>> appreciated.<br>> If every bit of information processed results in a speck of<br>> consciousness/qualia or whatever, what is the mechanism that 'sees' it<br>> and reports it to other?<br><br>My view here is similar to Brent's.
<br><br>Either awareness arises as some new magical property out of unaware matter<br>(emergentism), or else it is present in all matter (pan-psychism). I<br>reject the former and accept the latter. Brent calls this "phenomenal
<br>properties of matter". I believe we are proposing the same idea, more or<br>less.<br><br>I think neurons in the brain experience a color when the light stimulus<br>makes an imprint in them. We don't know the exact mechanism, but obviously
<br>it involves physical changes within or among neurons. In my view that<br>physical change *is* awareness. Furthermore I think awareness happens<br>whenever any physical object is affected by any stimulus.<br><br></blockquote>
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If this is so it seems that the interface has got to involve QM.<br>
In which case true AI is going to be a lot harder than we imagine, not
to mention uploading, since there is a hardware dependency.<br>
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Dirk<br>