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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>When I have spare time I'm there, I'm sure you can
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<DIV>Gina Miller<BR></DIV>
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<A title=xixidu@gmail.com href="mailto:xixidu@gmail.com">Alexander Kruel</A>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, December 11, 2005 5:10
AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [extropy-chat] Any Second
Life users?</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>Yes, I do also have a premium SL account. Didn't use it every
much yet tho. Did you ever read Permutation City and Diaspora by Greg Egan?
Two of my favorite books. A must read for everyone interested in "?<SPAN
style="FONT-STYLE: italic"> virtual</SPAN>?"-worlds and uploading. I've also
installed <A href="http://www.project-entropia.com/">Project Entropia</A>
lately, but didn't check it out yet. Another free <SPAN
style="FONT-STYLE: italic">metaverse. </SPAN>I'll see about the Future Salon
later today. I've already heard about it before, great
idea!<BR><BR>XiXiDu<BR><BR>P.S.<BR>My SL name is XiXiDu Aleixandre<BR><BR>
<DIV><SPAN class=gmail_quote>2005/12/11, Giu1i0 Pri5c0 < <A
href="mailto:pgptag@gmail.com">pgptag@gmail.com</A>>:</SPAN>
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class=gmail_quote>Second Life becomes more and more interesting. Any other
user here? I will try to go to the Future Salon meeting below, anyone going?
Perhaps we should build a classy transhumanist meeting place there.
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<DIV><SPAN><SPAN class=gmail_quote></SPAN>I have been interested in virtual
world after reading <A
onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)"
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neal_Stephenson" target=_blank>Neal
Stephenson </A>'s <A onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)"
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snow_Crash" target=_blank>Snow Crash</A>
(1992) and have occasionally experimented with virtual worlds on the net
since. In the mid 90s I used to visit one of the first virtual worlds on the
net, Worlds Away (now <A
onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)"
href="http://www.vzones.com/" target=_blank>VZones</A>). But I have never
been an addicted, probably because I never liked computer games too
much.<BR>Now since I bought a new sufficiently powerful PC I am spending
some time in the <A onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)"
href="http://secondlife.com/" target=_blank>Second Life</A> virtual world,
which is the most similar to Stephenson's metaverse that I have seen (from
the <A onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)"
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Life" target=_blank>Wikipedia
entry on Second Life </A>: "Many <I>Second Life</I> residents have noted the
similarities between <I>Second Life</I> and the <SPAN>Metaverse</SPAN> from
<SPAN>Neal Stephenson</SPAN>'s <SPAN>Snow Crash </SPAN><I><A
title="Snow Crash" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)"
href="http://wiki/Snow_Crash" target=_blank></A></I>. This is actually a
stated goal of Linden Lab - to create a user-defined world of general use in
which people can interact, play, do business and otherwise communicate").
<BR>Of the public open VR worlds that I have seen (I have seen some very
high tech and very closed ones, but this is another thing), this is the
first realistic enough to create a "real VR" experience (perhaps <A
onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)"
href="http://lindenlab.com/" target=_blank>Linden Lab</A> have been the
first to spend real money). My interest in SL has been boosted by reading <A
onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)"
href="http://www.business2.com/b2/web/articles/0,17863,1127659,00.html"
target=_blank>this Business2.0 article</A> which explains how SL has already
evolved into a real VR world with a lot of interacting users and a real
economy that permits making real money in VR. See also <A
onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)"
href="http://www.fortune.com/fortune/technology/articles/0,15114,1130814,00.html"
target=_blank>this Fortune article</A>. Some "evident" business models are
already being exploited, other more sophisticated will be developed, and
someday someone will make a lot of money.<BR>So I have upgraded my free
account to a premium one so I can purchase land and property, building a
house etc. The name I have chosen for my avatar is Giulio Perhaps. For some
reason you can freely choose your first name but have to pick your family
name from a list, and "perhaps" is a beautiful word. Many interesting
sentences start with this word, for example "perhaps in a few decades I will
upload my consciousness to my SL avatar and live permanently in SL". <BR>One
of the things to do today in Second Life is visiting a virtual
<SPAN>Future Salon</SPAN>. The <A
onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)"
href="http://accelerating.org/futuresalons.html" target=_blank>Future Salons
Network </A>runs one in Second Life besides those in the Bay Area, LA,
Seattle etc. More details in the article "<A
onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)"
href="http://slfuturesalon.blogs.com/second_life_future_salon/2005/04/why_second_life.html"
target=_blank> Second Life Future Salon: <SPAN>Why Meet in Second
Life?</SPAN></A>" on the <A
onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)"
href="http://slfuturesalon.blogs.com/" target=_blank>Second Life Future
Salon blog </A>. I look forward to attending the SL Future Salon next
week.<SPAN></SPAN><BR></SPAN></DIV><SPAN><FONT color=gray
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