<DIV>[No problem with your caveat, Brett, but I did write in preface of how it is a verbatim recycled letter and the content, not someone's name or a title, was what I want someone who might be so interested here to read]. </DIV> <DIV>Your doubts of Bush's morality are just & proper, unfortunately nationalism and morality are oil and vinegar at this time, get used to it-- I guarantee* you will have to when you reach a certain age, to retain peace of mind. I honestly think we might have to wait until the 22nd century for peace, and naturally my optimism is a construct, we're bucking for an extropian future we're not actually predicting anything. If we win, the future is extropian; if someone else wins, the future is theirs.</DIV> <DIV> *if you want a guarantee in writing just post where you want the fax sent to.<BR></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE class=replbq style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT:
#1010ff 2px solid"> <META content="MSHTML 6.00.2900.2769" name=GENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Alan, I understand dismay, but I don't know what you are talking about when you refer to "Mike Arvey's consiracy theory piece in the Sounding Off column". I don't know who Mike Arvey is, or why I should care that he is "sounding off" in a column called Sounding Off. </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>If you are "sound off" expressing your dismay then I'm *slightly* predisposed towards caring because you have self selected a list I post to to do it on and that reinforces that you might have something in common with me on some level. </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I am dismayed too. I think that America has been the greatest country on earth, but I fear that it might have become irredeemable since the Bush
administration went that final step in corrupting the UN, and invading Iraq illegally. I think that when Bush set aside that law, he also broke his own oath to the US people, but then the US people reelected </FONT><FONT face=Arial size=2>him and the only way that I can think of would undo the harm done would be for you to impeach your President and try him for any crimes and then and only when America has cleaned its own house, should the UN be reformed. </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>As things stand, now almost everything about America and Americans as a collective sample of priviledged selfish stupid humanity dismays me. </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Do I think Australians or any other nationality are any better? No. My dismay with America and Americans is because your country was
the best and your people as a collective were more empowered than any others to make the future better. </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>The world has taken a turn for the worse in our lives and on our watch. </FONT><FONT face=Arial size=2>Freedoms in so called democratic countries are being lost. </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>And we are all in part responsible for it but those who could do have done more and chose to do less are more responsible. Americans have a Bill of Rights to protect them and a Constitution that is their contract with each other and with the President and yet they do nothing. </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>If I cannot hold America as a whole responsible for what America does in the world then who can I hold responsible? Americans
re-elected Bush. And I think in so doing, as a collective, they became a net liability to human progress. </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Brett Paatsch</FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV>----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=albrooks2006@yahoo.com href="mailto:albrooks2006@yahoo.com">Alan Brooks</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, December 15, 2005 5:45 AM</DIV> <DIV
style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [extropy-chat] letter concerning presidential growth</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=courier size=4>[if no one complains of my recycled Letters To The Editor, such will be taken as acquiesence. Some may not like the letters; some might not read them-- however a few may read & appreciate them]<BR></FONT><BR><STRONG>Noted with dismay Mike Arvey's conspiracy theory piece in the Sounding Off column. Conspiracy theories metastasize all over the web, and now we get them on the editorial page of this paper? Well, at least the title, 'From The Grassy Knoll', is correct. </STRONG><STRONG>Conspiracy theories take grains of validity and attempt to enlarge them into rocks</STRONG><STRONG>, you don't even require a computer or books & periodicals to know about them, you can overhear conversations in a city such as this if you keep your ears open. The New World Order; Cheney; Halliburton. The first time I
heard about Halliburton it was exciting but now after hearing about Halliburton on perhaps over a </STRONG><STRONG>thousand occasions since 1999 it is enough to give one the heaves. </STRONG><STRONG>Arvey gives the game away in his 4th paragraph:<EM> "When Bush says that 'rebuilding a nation devastated by a dictator is a large undertaking,' he demonstrates, once again, his projective skills".</EM> Oh, so now Bush has skills, he is no longer a cretinous frat boy sitting on Cheney's lap? Bush has demonstrated 'career agility' and is now adept at 'personal growth'?</STRONG></DIV> <DIV><STRONG> Bush is now 'with it'? </STRONG></DIV><BR><BR>nattering nabob Of positivism since 1976 <div> <HR SIZE=1> Yahoo! Shopping<BR>Find Great Deals on Holiday Gifts at <A href="http://us.rd.yahoo.com/mail_us/footer/shopping/*http://shopping.yahoo.com/;_ylc=X3oDMTE2bzVzaHJtBF9TAzk1OTQ5NjM2BHNlYwNtYWlsdGFnBHNsawNob2xpZGF5LTA1">Yahoo! Shopping</A>
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