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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Marc,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Interesting idea about physical existence without
having any causal property.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Isn’t it possible that you could
have two physical objects – both a particular atom or something that can
be causally completely indistinguishable from the other. But if one atom
had a different “phenomenal” property than the other atom (say one
was red and the other green) this could still not be “causally”
detectable in any way. Yet isn’t it theoretically possible to put
these causally identical, phenomenally different objects in some kind of
physical lattice in some kind of brain that makes the entire system “aware”
of the red and green difference? Since the system was aware of the
difference, it could effect the selection of the red one (instead of the green
one) – even though the difference between the two items was in no way
causally detectable right?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>As far as your logic below goes it seems
just plain dumb. Just because it is abstractly possible to hypothesize that
more than 3 special dimensions and more than one time dimension exist – The
lack of physical evidence proves such a theory false or not like reality –
or at best uselessly overly complex than what occam’s razor idea will
allow.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Processes are sequential events –
but not necessarily extending into a time dimension right? As in the
entire sequence could theoretically occur instantaneously.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>And even if all this was some how true –
what does this have to do with the phenomenal difference between red and green?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Brent<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoPlainText style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><font size=3
face="??"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:??'> (1) Qualia are
generated by brain processes</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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face="??"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:??'> </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><font size=3
face="??"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:??'>(2) Brain processes are
enacting algorithms (mathematical patterns) </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><font size=3
face="??"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:??'> </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><font size=3
face="??"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:??'>(3) The algorithm
itself (the mathematical pattern) can't exist totally inside physical reality,
because mathematical patterns are abstractions and many different types of
brain processes can enact the same algorithm. So the brain processes
themselves can't be identical to the mathematical algorithm</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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face="??"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:??'> </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><font size=3
face="??"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:??'>(4) An algorithm is a
process. But as demonstrated above, it can't be a process which is
confined to physical reality - since it's an ABSTRACT process. Therefore
it must be a process taking place at least partially outside physical
reality. </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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face="??"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:??'> </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><font size=3
face="??"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:??'>(5) Processes are
events along time dimensions. As demonstrated above, there are
processes at least partially taking place outside physical reality, in the form
of mathematical patterns. Therefore these processes must be taking place
in multiple time dimensions </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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face="??"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:??'> </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><font size=3
face="??"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:??'>Ergo, extra time
dimensions exist. And consciousness is a process taking place in
multi-dimensional time.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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