<HTML><BODY style="word-wrap: break-word; -khtml-nbsp-mode: space; -khtml-line-break: after-white-space; ">I would argue that Bush, being the leader of the most powerful nation on earth, could easily come up in quite extropic conversations. Now I can see that the occupant of the Oval Office's sex habit are not relevant. But his attitudes toward freedom, science and so no could well be. Other than that, I agree.<DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>- samantha</DIV><DIV><BR><DIV><DIV>On Dec 22, 2005, at 9:35 PM, Russell Wallace wrote:</DIV><BR class="Apple-interchange-newline"><BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">On 12/23/05, <B class="gmail_sendername">Dirk Bruere</B> <<A href="mailto:dirk.bruere@gmail.com">dirk.bruere@gmail.com</A>> wrote:<DIV><SPAN class="gmail_quote"></SPAN><BLOCKQUOTE class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> When it comes to politics on this list I consider one form a necessity and the other a pest.<BR> The pest can be summed up as "parochial party politics". It is easy to spot - the names 'Bush', 'Republican', 'Democrat' etc make unwelcome appearances in almost all instances.<BR> If people want to talk about politics let's keep it to either specific instances that affect Transhumanist aims directly, or to principles and practices op the wider stage..<BR> Am I alone in this view?<SPAN class="sg"><BR> </SPAN></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV><BR> Seconded (or thirded, fourthed etc). Anyone who disagrees, let's suppose I got a bunch of Irish friends and we came onto this list and started spamming it with a zillion angry messages a day about Bertie Ahern. Something tells me the moderator wouldn't be quite so tolerant.<BR> <BR> Now there are political discussions that are genuinely extropy-relevant. They just don't tend to involve sphexish bickering about whether the current occupant of $government_building shags sheep.<BR> <BR> - Russell<BR><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">_______________________________________________</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">extropy-chat mailing list</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><A href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</A></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><A href="http://lists.extropy.org/mailman/listinfo/extropy-chat">http://lists.extropy.org/mailman/listinfo/extropy-chat</A></DIV> </BLOCKQUOTE></DIV><BR></DIV></BODY></HTML>