<HTML><BODY style="word-wrap: break-word; -khtml-nbsp-mode: space; -khtml-line-break: after-white-space; "><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>I am saying this from two standpoints:</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>1. If I am myself making the copy, and the copy is a success, and assuming that the two objects do not occupy the same location in space-time, and that for my convenience the locations they occupy are close to me and one another.</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>The one on my left, is the original. On my right, the 'copy'. I could mark one with a Sharpie, so I don't mix them up.</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV><SPAN class="Apple-style-span">If you shuffled them when I wasn't looking, then of course I can't tell them apart, ever again,<I> assuming they were not conscious entities.</I></SPAN></DIV><DIV><I><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></I></DIV><DIV>If they were conscious entities, then their 'exacting perfection' would fall gradually out of coherence as they each gather their own a-prioi experience. And that is how I could tell them apart - assuming the technology to perfectly copy two living things assumes the technology to tell them apart, doesn't it?</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>2. Right now, being unaware that I was or was not copied last night, I cannot possibly know. I could be buried in the yard, and this me is a perfect copy, who interprets the experiences recorded as my own, just like a replicant, transporter user in previous example, victim of the Outer Limits, etc. But we also lack the technology and tools of my example above right now.</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>Apologies in using you in examples without prior consent in previous emails!</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>Bret K.</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><BR><DIV><DIV>On Jan 26, 2006, at 1:32 PM, John K Clark wrote:</DIV><BR class="Apple-interchange-newline"><BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; font: 12.0px Helvetica; min-height: 14.0px"><BR></P> <BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 10.0px"><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 12.0px Helvetica">even though it is a duplicate of the original,</FONT></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 10.0px"><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 12.0px Helvetica">it is not the original, no matter how perfect</FONT></P> </BLOCKQUOTE><P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; font: 12.0px Helvetica; min-height: 14.0px"><BR></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px"><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 12.0px Helvetica">How do you know? If the copy is perfect then how do you know it is not the</FONT></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px"><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 12.0px Helvetica">"original", how do you know somebody didn't copy you last night and</FONT></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px"><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 12.0px Helvetica">destroyed the "original", how do you know that you are not a "copy"?</FONT></P> </BLOCKQUOTE></DIV><BR></BODY></HTML>