<br><div><span class="gmail_quote">On 3/13/06, <b class="gmail_sendername">"Hal Finney"</b> <<a href="mailto:hal@finney.org">hal@finney.org</a>> wrote:</span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
Via slashdot I found this article about an award to Robert Freitas and<br>Bill Joy: <a onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="http://lifeboat.com/news.cgi?40" target="_blank">http://lifeboat.com/news.cgi?40
</a></blockquote><div><br> [snip]</div><br></div>I saw this. My initial reaction was also "Who is Lifeboat?" Further investigation seemed to suggest it was an organization wanting to preserve humanity from both natural and self-created hazards. That in and of itself seemed reasonable.
<br><br>However, I was struck by how long the Board list was, particularly given the fact that a number of years ago I had asked Ray to be on the SAB for Robiobotics and he had declined. Now perhaps his thinking was different back then, but one would expect a person interested in the risks of biotechnology would want to be on the SAB of a company proposing to facilitate "whole genome engineering". Why participate in Lifeboat and not Robiobotics? I also know some of the people listed on the Board (Freitas, Fahy, More, Vita-More, Annisimov, Yudkowsky, de Grey, Fossel, Rose, etc.) and know that they have relatively high standards with respect to projects they would actively participate in and/or support.
<br><br>So a combination of the length of the Board list and my experience sent me on a fishing expedition. The "whois" on the domain <a href="http://lifeboat.com">lifeboat.com</a> doesn't help much as it appears to be registered to one "Eric Klien" in Buffalo, NY. So I thought "relative" of Bruce Klein (?) of the Immortality Institute but the last name spelling is different. Now, from the /. article it does appear that "Eric Klien" was involved in "The Atlantis Project" (aka the Oceania project) [1] which dates back to 1990's and seems to have some roots in Libertarian politics/philosophy.
<br><br>Now, a bit of digging in the Internet Archive, suggests that up until sometime in 2001/2002, "<a href="http://Lifeboat.com">Lifeboat.com</a>" was a company specializing in "secure credit card solutions for Internet transactions" [2]. After that it seems to have "morphed" into the "Lifeboat Foundation" out to "save humanity". Interestingly, if one looks carefully through the Internet Archive, the first member of the Board [3] appears to be
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Dr. Niklas Järvstråt. And I thought, boy that names seems familiar. Sure enough he was mentioned as PhysOrg.org today as the primary person behind Swedish efforts to build a self-sustaining colony on the moon [4]. (Now they plan to apparently sustain themselves by exporting He3 to Earth to supply fuel for fusion reactors -- that haven't been designed or built yet... don't get me started.) So the whole thing starts to seem a bit fishy particulary when one takes into account their (1) lack of transparancy with regard to who created the "Lifeboat Foundation" and what their background(s) are; and (2) their emphasis on "matching donations" [5].
<br><br>The Lifeboat Foundation appears to be a nonprofit organization located in Minden, NV. Interestingly its stated corporate address according to Google Maps & Mapquest is in a relatively rural area east of Lake Tahoe and according to the
SBN.com yellow pages appears to be colocated with several attorneys. That leads me to really want to know who are its founders, officers, shareholders, etc.? And most importantly for me -- are all of the people listed on the "board" aware of who is behind the organization and have they explicitly said that they will actively participate in the board? I've participated in a number of corporate board meetings as well as scientific advisory board meetings and there is absolutely no way that a "real" management or advisory board can productively function with the number of people they currently list.
<br></font><br>Being optimistic I would say we have we may have a well-intentioned individuals with a extropian/transhumanistic perspective trying to promote reasonable ideas in line with reducing the overall hazard function for humanity. Being pessimistic I would say we have someone who may be using (abusing?) the reputations of people many of us know and respect (best case) or what may be an extremely elaborate con game (worst case).
<br><br>I would strongly urge people to review the board [6] and confirm or deny their active participation and/or the use of their reputations by the Lifeboat Foundation. Those finding that their names are being used without approval may wish to post comments to the ExI list and/or the /. article [7].
<br><br>For those wishing to attempt to contact them, the contacts page claims:<br>Lifeboat Foundation, 1638 Esmeralda Ave, Minden, NV 89423.<br>Phone: (775) 783-8443; Fax: (775) 783-0803; Email: <a href="mailto:admin@lifeboat.com">
admin@lifeboat.com</a>.<br><br>Robert<br>---------<br><br>1. <a href="http://www.oceania.org/">http://www.oceania.org/</a><br>2. <a href="http://web.archive.org/web/20010516220939/http://www.lifeboat.com/">http://web.archive.org/web/20010516220939/http://www.lifeboat.com/
</a><br>3. <a href="http://web.archive.org/web/20021204114050/lifeboat.com/ex/board">http://web.archive.org/web/20021204114050/lifeboat.com/ex/board</a><br>4. <a href="http://www.physorg.com/news11669.html">http://www.physorg.com/news11669.html
</a><br>5. <a href="http://lifeboat.com/ex/donations.matching.info%20Dr.%20Niklas%20J%C3%83%C2%A4rvstr%C3%83%C2%A5t">http://lifeboat.com/ex/donations.matching.info</a><br>6. <a href="http://lifeboat.com/ex/board">http://lifeboat.com/ex/board
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