<DIV>Hi Ben,</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>No problem. It wasn't so much a criticism, as it was a legitimate (arguably) question of mine ;-) . I have another question though (presented as an experiment). Lets say that in the future it becomes possible to reversibly preserve a human (say through improved vitrification). So I decide to be vitrified, a 'perfect' scan is made of my brain, but is stored as information only (as a giant stack of printed pages), not implemented. I'm revived from the vitrification and go about my daily life (which should be pretty awesome). But, alas, I get killed in an accident one hour after revival. Is it your belief (or anyone elses' here) that if my mind-information later gets implemented (let's say in the form of a physical replica, made of real atoms - not simulated), that I will "reawaken", and it will still be "me".</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Just to save time I will provide my own answer here for the purpose of discussion.
For now, I will say the answer is: yes, it will be "me". But, if I choose to believe this, I don't see how that refutes the "hive-mind" idea. It would seem to support it even. The only way it would seem to refute the hive-mind idea, would be with the assertion that: for some reason, I can only experience *one* identity at a time and not many; why would this necessarily be the case (even in the absence of mind enhancements)? </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>But, you might easily be able convince me that the correct answer is: no, it will not be "me".</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Best Wishes,</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Jeffrey Herrlich <BR><BR><B><I>ben <benboc@lineone.net></I></B> wrote:</DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE class=replbq style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid">A B doubtfully said:<BR><BR><BR>> I'm just going to try to clarify for my own understanding. If one <BR>accepts that only
the 'pattern' of information is necessary and<BR>sufficient for establishing identity, then if I made a perfect copy of<BR>myself, would I not expect a stream of experiences from both (or all)<BR>'versions' simultaneously? If I made many copies, would I effectively<BR>become a hive-mind? But if your answer is yes, then how can this be so?<BR>Given that the human mind (as it is now) is incapable of *directly*<BR>accessing other minds. Would the bandwidth (direct mind access ability)<BR>of my own mind mysteriously double if make a single perfect copy of<BR>myself? It doesn't seem like it should - because that would seem to<BR>imply an instantaneous and significant alteration to the physical<BR>arrangement of my brain (which seems unlikely), but perhaps I'm wrong.<BR><BR>Eek, no!<BR><BR>Perhaps i confused the issue by mentioning hive-minds. That would of<BR>course require additional capabiilies to allow the different minds to<BR>communicate with each other at an intimate
level.<BR><BR>I'm glad that you doubted that interpretation of what i said. You're<BR>perfectly right. I'm really embarrassed now, for saying something that<BR>could be easily misinterpreted as a semi-mystical statement. Or not so<BR>semi, for that matter. Sorry!<BR><BR>ben<BR>_______________________________________________<BR>extropy-chat mailing list<BR>extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org<BR>http://lists.extropy.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/extropy-chat<BR></BLOCKQUOTE><BR><p>__________________________________________________<br>Do You Yahoo!?<br>Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around <br>http://mail.yahoo.com