<DIV>Hi Heartland (S.),</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Heartland wrote:</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><EM>"I view mind as analogous to movement. If I throw a baseball and choose to view its <BR>flight inside a Planck Interval then I might have to conclude that ball's movement <BR>ceases to exist during that interval. But this would not be true. Movement exists <BR>as long as potential and kinetic energies don't dissipate."</EM></DIV> <DIV><EM></EM> </DIV> <DIV>But, I think that is the true nature of motion. When you break down motion into very small units of space and time, it has a non - continuous nature. It has a discrete nature, kind of like a single quantum (but only as an analogy). If the object in motion consists of matter then by definition at least 2 Planck Intervals must elapse before that particle can traverse even a single unit of Planck Space (Light (EM radiation) requires 1 Planck Interval in order to traverse 1 Planck Space). But even without regard
to this, I wasn't before referring to what happens *inside* a *single* Planck Interval, I was referring to what may happen within a span of many Planck Intervals.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Best Wishes,</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Jeffrey Herrlich<BR></DIV> <DIV><B><I>Heartland <velvet977@hotmail.com></I></B> wrote:</DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE class=replbq style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid">Hi Jeffrey,<BR><BR>> "But the main point is that at no time<BR>> during execution of the process the activity of the process stops. Even during<BR>> Planck Intervals matter that implements mind carries potential energy that will<BR>> power a transition from one mind state to the next. In other words, mind process<BR>> exists even during Planck Intervals."<BR><BR>Jeffrey wrote:<BR>"I think this is where things are going to get blurry. I agree, that even while a <BR>neuron is not firing, biological activity is still occurring.
The dendrites are <BR>collecting neurotransmitters, the cell is conducting basic life support metabolism, <BR>etc. But a neuron is unique among any other cell in the body - and that lies in its <BR>role to conduct transmissions. As I understand it, it utilizes two different forms <BR>of transmission: a chemical one based on diffusion, and an electrical one. But the <BR>electrical discharge (the firing) is the limiting step in this transmission <BR>process. Without these widespread electrical transmissions throughout the brain, <BR>cognition of any kind would be impossible - the brain would be effectively dead; <BR>unable to process information. It would be just a lump of tissue that was <BR>exchanging chemicals, like a liver housed in a skull. So, during those spans where <BR>no neuron is firing (~10 ^ 29 PI) no relevant process is occurring;"<BR><BR>I view mind as analogous to movement. If I throw a baseball and choose to view its <BR>flight inside a Planck Interval then
I might have to conclude that ball's movement <BR>ceases to exist during that interval. But this would not be true. Movement exists <BR>as long as potential and kinetic energies don't dissipate.<BR><BR><BR>> "On the other hand, when mind stops, there<BR>> exists a point in time when there is no force that can transfer one mind state to<BR>> the next, meaning that the previous instance of that process has run its course.<BR>> That point in time is the time of death."<BR>><BR>> Yes, but the atoms and chemicals still exist, they still carry their potential <BR>> energy, and if the vitrification is sufficiently fine, the structure of the <BR>> neuron is still in place. If a patient were revived, the neurons would have no <BR>> "choice" but to continue firing and processing.<BR><BR><BR>But once mind process stops, all that matter and energy no longer contribute to <BR>implementation of mind process. All the chaotic exchanges of energy no longer power
<BR>transitions from one mind state to the next. In other words, mind no longer <BR>"moves," to use my earlier analogy.<BR><BR>S. <BR>_______________________________________________<BR>extropy-chat mailing list<BR>extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org<BR>http://lists.extropy.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/extropy-chat<BR></BLOCKQUOTE><BR><p>
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