On 4/20/06, <b class="gmail_sendername">Natasha Vita-More</b> <<a href="mailto:natasha@natasha.cc">natasha@natasha.cc</a>> wrote:<div><span class="gmail_quote"></span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
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What do you think abaouat Schroeder?<br><br>
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Schroeder, now I remember that name! For a review of 'Permanence' (both
the review and the novel are recommended), see
<a href="http://arxiv.org/ftp/astro-ph/papers/0408/0408521.pdf">http://arxiv.org/ftp/astro-ph/papers/0408/0408521.pdf</a><br>
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I tried posting the following reply on the blog site, but it hasn't showed up - is there a delay for manual review on the site?:<br>
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Karl Schroeder, author of 'Permanence'? Excellent book, one of the most thought-provoking I've read in a long time.<br>
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So I am surprised to see you of all people advocate suppressing
progress, because it seems to me that having written such a book, you
must know - understand at a gut level, not just as an abstract concept
- that evolution doesn't magically stop, that the current state of
affairs isn't especially favored as an evolutionary optimum, that
stopping progress will not result in stasis, but in decline and
ultimately extinction.<br>
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Now, there is a small lunatic fringe among transhumanists who want to
convert themselves into entities with the power of gods and morals and
aesthetics somewhere between those of a bacterium and a theorem prover,
and to the extent you are criticizing that philosophy I agree with you.<br>
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But "Who should decide? The joyous. --Those few among us who live in a
state of grace" is equally alarming. As I think you are aware, handing
total power to a ruling elite for the sake of an ideology is a proven
recipe for disaster at best and hell at worst.<br>
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Which group should decide what the future will be? None! No group, no
government, no "few... who live in a state of grace" are good or wise
enough to be trusted with that sort of power. It's a decision for all
of humanity - not by the "pick which untrustworthy political party gets
the power" method, but by the emergent method of the market of ideas.<br>
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As it happens this meshes with reality, because if you ask people who
actually work in the relevant fields, the current batch of predictions
about imminent flying cars, moon bases, total cancer cures, electricity
too cheap to meter etc are no more realistic than the last batch; it's
going to be the work of generations - of the world, not just one
corporation or nation - to bring any of this about. So no, let's not
help _them_ build our future. Let's help _us_ build our future.<br></div>