Hello all<br><br>It's been a while since I've posted to the list, although I have continually monitored it for several years now. I'm surprised and disheartened to hear that ExI is no more, but I know that the Board must know what's best for the institute and that gives me some comfort.
<br><br>In terms of memorable discussions, a few years back there were a number of very thought provoking discussions/debates concerning the inevitability and benefits of societal transparency. Although the discussions eventually tended toward ad hominem attacks, I believe that there was much of value in the ideas expressed in them. I also believe that with the continual evolution, use and acceptance of surveillance technology (think cell phone cameras, traffic light cameras, explosion of CCTV
<br><br><div><span class="gmail_quote">On 5/5/06, <b class="gmail_sendername">Max More</b> <<a href="mailto:max@maxmore.com">max@maxmore.com</a>> wrote:</span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
Thank you for your words, Hal.<br><br>As Natasha and Mitch have said, plans are afoot to preserve all the<br>public material -- in fact to make it more available than ever before.<br>As we work on this project, it would be very helpful to hear from List
<br>subscribers (especially you long-timers): which do you think are the<br>best and most memorable discussions that have appeared on the List?<br>Which discussions or individual posts should be included in any selection?
<br><br>Once the bulk of the existing material is online and searchable, we<br>would like to go further, using more advanced tools and perhaps making<br>the Extropy Library a repository that continues to build.<br><br>Onward!
<br><br>Max<br><br><br>Hal Finney wrote:<br>> I want to congratulate Natasha, Max, and the rest of the Extropy<br>> Institute board for taking this difficult but proactive step rather than<br>> letting ExI and its related concepts just fade away as happens with
<br>> so many institutions. When the time has come to move on, recognizing<br>> and accepting that fact is always difficult. But the world has changed<br>> enormously since the 1980s when Max and Tom invented the idea of Extropy,
<br>> and even since the early 1990s when this mailing list was born in its<br>> earlier incarnation. Ideas which at that time were considered too<br>> outlandish even for science fiction are now debated regularly in the
<br>> corridors of power and on the front pages of major newspapers and other<br>> opinion leaders.<br>><br>> My main concern during this time of transition is that the history<br>> of Extropy be preserved and not forgotten. Because of the extreme
<br>> unacceptability of transhumanist ideas in the early days (hard to remember<br>> today), the original extropians mailing list had a policy of quasi-secrecy<br>> with regard to list archives. As a result, much of that free-wheeling
<br>> discussion has been lost, an information exchange which many of us<br>> remember as among the most dynamic and engaging we have ever encountered.<br>><br>> It may never be possible to reconstruct and restore those lost archives,
<br>> but eventually the list policy changed, and we should make sure that<br>> what remains is not lost. Not only list archives, but the working<br>> papers and other documents produced by ExI over the years, should all
<br>> be preserved for future study and reference. It's possible that someday<br>> this material will be seen as representing the birth of ideas which turn<br>> out to be key to the further development of humanity.
<br>><br>> Making data available for an indefinite period into the future will<br>> not happen automatically. It will take time and effort to make the<br>> preparations, and funds will be needed as well. If there are things I
<br>> could do to help, I hope Natasha will feel free to ask, and I am sure<br>> that most of the rest of us in the community feel the same way.<br>><br>> Hal Finney<br>> _______________________________________________
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