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<P>My comments on traditional, stereotypical feminine roles were there to remind the H+ males and females who are usually not traditional or stereotypical that many, if not most people see themselves quite happily as traditional/stereotypical (T /S). It gives them stability and comfort, because to not be T/S means CHANGE. And most humans hate that. Techs that are considered advanced can be assimilated by them within their T/S mindset. (Females using the Internet to shop, for instance. Even I am proud of my bargain scores on eBay, for example.) The techs may be advanced, but the uses are still traditional. However, I am not so naive as to think that the T/Sers aren't actually changed by their use of the tech, regardless. I know they are changed. And all of society is changed. Unfortunately, it is they themselves who often don't perceive or wish to acknowledge the change.</P>
<P>I agree that outliers are as real and valid as other -- we as H+ ARE outliers!</P>
<P>Different H+ers will have different reasons to engage in an H+ dialogue with non-H+ers. Everyone's agenda is different. Mine is to get as many people acclimated to the idea of accelerating technology and the social changes they will bring because 1) I fear a reactionary backlash 2) I think there are aspects of the flipside -- uncritical/overly enthusiastic H+ tech acceptance, that are just as dangerous/counterproductive to society and 3) I live in the idealistic hope that the more people who engage in this dialogue, the more people will feel less afraid because society is moving in a direction that they can both understand (at least on the surface) and participate in and society can create the middle ground it has historically dwelt in best.</P>
<P>And yes, humor is a great way to build a receptive audience.</P>
<P>Respectfully,</P>
<P>PJ</P>
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<DIV>you seemed to be saying was the suggestion that in order to get more women interested in H+, we somehow need to present technology as something that can be applied to traditional, stereotypical feminine tasks and roles. I probably read your note about vaccuum cleaners and video games as childrens' entertainment more literally than you intended it to be taken, though.</DIV>
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<DIV>However, the above is resolved (in a sense) by your reconceptualization of the "goal at hand" as a form of bilingualism -- in part because this call for bilingualism is gender-neutral and therefore more realistic, since while generalizations may be useful in terms of allowing statistical analysis of trends within a population, they have an unfortunate tendency to neglect the outliers. And outliers are just as real and valid as anyone else. </DIV>
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<DIV>I would suggest that perhaps if this bilingualism is to become an actualized goal, it first needs to be determined what the point of the resultant bilingual communication should be...</DIV>
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<DIV>humor is one of the best ways to make anything less scary to a wider audience.</DIV></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></BODY>