<div>But unfortunately you can get a different sort of message from psychedelics too, a Charles Manson can get the message: "in the name of God and the Beatles kill thy neighbor with a serrated steak knife". THAT comes from the deepest most intimate place as well.</div> <div> </div> <div><BR><BR> </div> <BLOCKQUOTE class=replbq style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid">People experience similar benefits from, for example, a sudden and<BR>intense life-threatening brush with danger (to themselves or loved<BR>ones), falling in love, getting religion, great sex (if they haven't had<BR>any for a long while), sexual abstinence (if they've had too much for<BR>too long), fasting (if they've always had plenty, and so on.<BR><BR>On a smaller scale, laughter can completely change the dynamics of a<BR>tense business meeting, a brief walk in the park can refresh an<BR>engineer's problem-solving abilities, and
temporarily doing something<BR>mundane can restore a writer's creativity.<BR><BR>So yes, having a drug-induced hallucinogenic experience, enhanced by the<BR>rush of a significant flow of certain neurotransmitters and (for these<BR>drugs in particular) minor refractory impact, can easily lead to a<BR>shakeup in world view. But the results don't necessarily have much to<BR>do with chemicals.<BR><BR>A systems-view of the world (including the humans in it) can provide<BR>powerful insights.<BR><BR>Of course, as everyone knows, such thinking is totally dehumanizing.<BR>;-)<BR><BR>- Jef<BR><BR><BR><BR>_______________________________________________<BR>extropy-chat mailing list<BR>extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org<BR>http://lists.extropy.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/extropy-chat<BR></BLOCKQUOTE><BR><p>
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