On 12/30/06, <b class="gmail_sendername">John K Clark</b> <<a href="mailto:jonkc@att.net">jonkc@att.net</a>> wrote:<div><span class="gmail_quote"></span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
Have you ever tried this? If you really destroy the record you will get a<br>surprise. Place a polarizing filter set at 0 degrees over one slit, and one<br>set at 90 degrees over the other, the interference pattern disappears
<br>because there is now, in effect, a record of what photon went through what<br>slit. Now place a third filter set at 45 degrees one inch in front of the<br>film and 10 light years from the slits. The interference pattern comes
<br>back because the record is now destroyed, even though you didn't decide<br>to put the filter in front of the film until 10 years after the photons<br>passed the slits! Quantum Mechanics may or may not be a good idea
<br>but one thing is certain, it's the law.<br></blockquote></div><br>Right, yes, if you _really_ destroy the record like in the above, the interference pattern comes back.<br><br>I was thinking along the lines of: put a detector at each slit to check which one the particle went through, but instead of displaying the result on a screen, record it to flash memory without looking at it. Interference pattern stays gone. Erase the flash memory stick, throw it into an incinerator, feed the vapor into a black hole [1], the interference pattern still stays gone even though no conscious observer saw which slit the particle went through. Therefore whatever causes the apparent collapse of the wave function, it isn't consciousness.
<br><br>The many worlds explanation for this is that the particle became entangled with a record that in a sense wasn't truly destroyed, because more than kT energy had been irreversibly (thermodynamically) dissipated, thus causing decoherence.
<br><br>[1] Given that the consensus now, as I understand it, is that black holes don't act as quantum erasers of information.<br>