<br>Stathis,<br><br>Re:<br><div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"><div><div>Sure, I've been an atheist since birth, but there are a lot of people who believe in God and Satan, especially in America, and I'd be interested in hearing their views on transhumanism should any be reading this.
</div></div></blockquote><div><br>You cannot be an "athiest since birth" since at birth you were incapable of having or holding beliefs. Ones brain could not frame or hold onto such concepts. So I will assume you are speaking allgorically.
<br></div><br>There are a lot of people who believe in a lot of things and I am not the best person to comment on society dictated belief vectors (since I rejected many of them very early in my development) . I would be interested in comments by "indoctrinated" individuals who simply said "this does not make sense".
<br><br>We have before us a possible intersection -- Individuals such as Eugen or Rafal who may have been brought up in societies with no predispositions compared with individuals such as myself or spike who had very directed dispositions. And then one adds on top of this people like Anders or Nick whose predelictions go off in god knows what directions...
<br><br>Test. Propose a vector that you have viewed as having been "worthy."<br>My absolute criteria is "How many lives saved".<br>Caveat: Saving lives may be less interesting than saving specific lives.
<br><br>For example, and you can rake me over the coals for this argument if in the course of the discussion one minds the topic of whether such as Anders or Eugens minds should be preserved forever.<br><br></div> Robert
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