<br><br><div><span class="gmail_quote">On 29/05/07, <b class="gmail_sendername">The Avantguardian</b> <<a href="mailto:avantguardian2020@yahoo.com">avantguardian2020@yahoo.com</a>> wrote:</span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
--- Joshua Cowan <<a href="mailto:jcowan5@sympatico.ca">jcowan5@sympatico.ca</a>> wrote:<br>> Samantha wrote:<br>><br>> >This line of reasoning has considerable dark side<br>> potential. We can and<br>
> >do go beyond our EP in at least some ways.<br>><br>> I'm quite interested in this thought.<br>><br>> In which ways do you believe we go beyond our EP and<br>> are there common<br>> factors that determine when humanity is able to
<br>> transcend its evolutionary<br>> psychology?<br><br>It has been experimentally determined that human<br>infants develop a fear of heights *before* they are<br>even able to crawl around. This is pretty good<br>evidence that there is something instinctual about the
<br>fear of heights. Considering that numerous humans<br>routinely fly around in jet planes at mach 2, sky<br>dive, rock climb, bungie cord, and walk on tightropes,<br>I would say that it is a safe bet that many aspects of
<br>EP can be transcended if one is willing. To paraphrase<br>Neitszche, evolutionary psychology is something to be<br>overcome.<br></blockquote></div><br>There is a hierarchy of EP at work here. Fear of heights can be overcome, with some effort, by means of rational thought when we realise that it probably won't kill us, but that just points to the higher level EP, fear of death, or fear of the loss of everything you care about. These top level motivations are very hard to shift, and when they are overcome it is not because someone sees this as an intrinsically good thing to do, but usually in the context of death and loss being inevitable, so best try not to get too upset about it. Spontaneously arriving at the idea that your death and that of other people are completely inconsequential, and actually behaving in a way that indicates you are serious about it, is usually taken as a sign of mental illness, even though there is nothing in this idea that is contrary to logic or contrary to empirical evidence. In the end, the will to survive, or even the will to see the world survive, is just an axiom of EP, without any deeper justification.
<br clear="all"><br>-- <br>Stathis Papaioannou